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Old 05-20-2018, 05:23 PM
Chicago Dave Chicago Dave is offline
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Default Lyon & Healy snare

Just got this from the Chicago Drum Show from Wood & Weather Drum Shop (http://woodandweatherdrumshop.com/).

1912 (there about) Lyon & Healy snare. 15"x4", 20 lugs. Seems to be all original hardware, except for a few tension rods. They are at least from around the same time. The original bakelite vent is hidden behind the strainer. There is no badge or label. The only mark of any kind is the number 4 on the inside of the shell, indicating shell depth.











I live in Chicago, so it is nice to bring this drum back to its place of origin. It is missing one small piece of hardware from the top rim. Perhaps a ring of some kind. The only flaw is a crack in the bottom hoop that extends about 8 inches. It has been repaired and doesn't seem to be an issue. But seeing as the drum is over 100 years old, I will only play it sparingly. It would be a shame to put it in a case and never play it.

Researching this snare has been interesting. I knew the hardware was Duplex, as they supplied hardware to many smaller companies. I wasn't sure of the maker until I ran across this image:

from this page:
http://rhythmdiscoverycenter.org/onl...t-snare-drums/

As you can see, someone has installed a contemporary strainer, and you can see a glimpse of the ring that my snare is missing. The website has this to say about the snare:

"Lyon & Healy Snare Drum . Donated by Gordon Peters A 4-inch by 15-inch wood-shell drum, dated August 6, 1912, on an internal label. Although the label identifies the drum as Lyon & Healy, the design is that used by the Duplex Mfg. Co. for drums provided to various musical merchants in the early part of the 20th century. 20 lugs with rods join to metal inserts in the wood counterhoops to provide separate tension for the heads. This drum has been modified with a new strainer and a set of Hinger snares."

If the finish on the Gordon Peters snare is original, then there is a chance the finish on mine has been altered. I only say this because there are areas where the finish is uneven, and it is a bit lighter that the Peters snare.

If anyone else has this snare in their collection, please help me fill in a couple of blanks. I'm looking for a clear example of the original paper label from inside: dimensions, text detail, where it was applied. I'm also looking for clear pictures of the ring from the top hoop. Thanks!

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Old 05-20-2018, 06:40 PM
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Great looking snare drum and drum history .Enjoy !!
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:51 PM
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Very cool looking snare!! I like how the eyelets are attached to the hoops...Ingenious!!

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Old 05-22-2018, 08:25 AM
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Hi Dave
I absolutely love the look of the 20-lug snare drums. You got yourself a real beauty !
I have a 1898 Duplex in my collection that took a bit of work to get it back in shape. Like yours mine had a crack along the rim that I was able to repair and someone (before I got it) did a beautiful repair on the hoop that was either cracked or missing a piece (picture 1898 Duplex 20-lug 5). I was pretty lucky as mine had the names and dates of some of the players inside the drum from as far back as 1912. From quite a bit of research I was able to determine that the snare first started it's life at an Indian Reservation School in Washington State. Here's a few pictures to share.
Enjoy !
Michael
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:34 PM
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CT - Thanks for posting that. It's in amazing condition. I like the strainer on there. Did you add that? I was thinking of adding something like that, as long as I don't have to make new holes.
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Old 05-23-2018, 10:40 AM
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CT - Thanks for posting that. It's in amazing condition. I like the strainer on there. Did you add that? I was thinking of adding something like that, as long as I don't have to make new holes.
C-Dave
The strainer is the original that came with the drum, several of my Duplex snares from that era have the same one.
Thanks
Michael
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:15 PM
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Oh, I see it now. That's nice. I will try to find one of those.
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Old 05-23-2018, 02:40 PM
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Oh, I see it now. That's nice. I will try to find one of those.
Why would you change your strainer on yours in the 1st place ?
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Old 05-24-2018, 12:14 PM
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To prevent further splitting of the bottom hoop. I won't need to drill any new holes to mount the strainer. I will a simple brass adapter plate.
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