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Old 06-12-2018, 09:19 PM
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I'm also a guitarist, so let me try to explain why a relic'd guitar can be a good thing.

Very often, guitars, particularly ones with polyester finishes, feel stiff and cold when you strap them on, almost too perfect. They don't feel player friendly. A tastefully relic'd or aged guitar often feels broken in, comfortable, like it's seen hundreds of gigs already. It's been well played and is user friendly the minute you put it on, and that's why players like myself like them. They just feel better than a shiny, plastic covered guitar. You hold a guitar against your body, so it's got to feel good. You don't do that with drums.

What I have a problem with are amateurs who take a belt sander to a perfectly good guitar and ruin the finish. When relicing is done by someone who doesn't know what he's doing, the results are usually terrible and laughable at the same time. You see them on Ebay and Reverb all the time, and you can always tell the good relic jobs from the bad ones.

I hope I've explained why some guitarists like relicing. Another thing: some people say you should only relic a guitar naturally over a period of time, say 20 or 30 years. Well, some of us don't have 20 or 30 years to do that!

Finally, John Mellencamp's drummer, Dane Clark, uses a relic'd drumset with rusty hardware. Check them out online sometime. I'd say 98%% of the drummers out there want their drums to look bright, clean and shiny, so I doubt the relic thing will ever happen to any extent on drums.

Do they put the fret board marks on the strings too ?
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Old 06-13-2018, 08:39 AM
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I like my drums OLD & beautiful.
What the hands of time does to them I cannot control.
But I still want them shiny, just OLD!
Yes, yes, yes! Which is why I LOVE my vintage kits...OLD, BEAUTIFUL and SHINY!

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Old 06-13-2018, 11:34 AM
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I do NOT like this trend of "relic'ing". We go through so much effort to make old instruments look new again; why would people want to make old instruments look older?

This trend is popular with vintage car restorers now. They add faux rust, dents, and deliberately dull the chrome to make the car appear unrestored...

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Either restore a drum to look new again or leave it in it's original, unrestored condition, but don't go through pain-staking trouble to make a kit look like it's rusted and bounced around in the back of a tour bus for years.


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Old 06-13-2018, 11:58 AM
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Complete drum sets that look like what mchair303 describes are the kind that we vintage collectors dream of finding for $100-$200 in a barn or a garage. Then, we spiff 'em up so that they gleam. And, oh yeah.........they sound like a million bucks.
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:18 PM
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Having said that, I have a few dinged up old kit I like to gig on because I don't have to worry about dinging them up. They already are......
That's exactly what I like about used stuff in general.

I like patina and wear, but only when I or somebody else caused it by using the item for some time.
First, when it's new, I enjoy the beautiful pristine shiny-ness, then I enjoy it being slightly worn so that I don't have to worry about it, then I enjoy the history it emits by being well worn.
Relic'd guitars might look and feel cool, but c'mon... it's just fake! Buy a new guitar (for a bout 30pct of the price!!!) and "relic" it yourself by playing the heck out of it every day for a few years! I understand the craving for authenticity in today's plastic and digitalised age (isn't that why we like vintage drums, after all?), but... y'know, go for authentic authenticity...
Just my opinion... if anybody wants to shell out the price of actual vintage Fender on a new "relic'd" one, let them be my guest.
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:25 PM
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I saw a tiny Mapex kit in Disney World a couple of years ago, set up on an outdoor stage for some sort of live show. The kit looked like it had been dragged behind a Land Rover on safari in Kenya (which was the desired effect). It was just carefully spray painted to look like it was covered in red clay and rust. It was weird, but the effect was appropriate, since it was in a simulated African village, and everything else on stage looked like that.
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:41 PM
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Default Re: Old Man Rant: Something I hope never happens to drums.

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I like my drums OLD & beautiful.
What the hands of time does to them I cannot control.
But I still want them shiny, just OLD!
So true, sir! I'm an old relic but, I like to think that I am clean and shiny. Hmm...maybe not so beautiful anymore though.
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:34 PM
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We all get old think of the alternative
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Old 06-14-2018, 08:24 AM
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I do NOT like this trend of "relic'ing". We go through so much effort to make old instruments look new again; why would people want to make old instruments look older?

This trend is popular with vintage car restorers now. They add faux rust, dents, and deliberately dull the chrome to make the car appear unrestored...

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Either restore a drum to look new again or leave it in it's original, unrestored condition, but don't go through pain-staking trouble to make a kit look like it's rusted and bounced around in the back of a tour bus for years.


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Not all Rat Rods are adorned with faux rust, dents, etc. Most of them are just that way; old junkers brought back from the dead and left in a state of decrepitude.
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Old 06-14-2018, 12:02 PM
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old junkers brought back from the dead and left in a state of decrepitude.
Ha ha ha, I like that! "decrepitude".....is that even a word?? I guess it is now! LOL!
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