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Old 03-15-2013, 10:08 PM
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Default 22" Zildjian which stamp?

Hi Forumites, Does this look like a Transtamp to you guys? Z and Co stamped harder? Or is it just a 60s maybe 70s.

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Old 03-15-2013, 10:20 PM
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Default Re: 22" Zildjian which stamp?

looks like trans stamp from what i see there on the stamp itself.

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Old 03-16-2013, 03:09 PM
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Thank you Mike, I uploaded some more pics. The cymbal weighs about 2700g.
Wobbles real good too!! There is a flat spot on the edge,around 3" long by about 2" deep. Someone must have hit it pretty good at one time. But it plays great.
Would this be 50s early 60s?Any other way to tell other than the stamp?


Thanks for the help,Ed
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Old 03-16-2013, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 22" Zildjian which stamp?

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thats a beautiful cymbal. that lathing also looks indicative of 50's lathing as well. i'm not expert on these things. only pass on what i have read and observed. that stamp is certainly trans stamp. i think these were made prior to 54 or so. they also were trans stamps in the 40's. they have some certain marks in the lettering that distinguish them i think. i'm sure youre enjoying that one.

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Old 03-16-2013, 03:24 PM
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Haven't got it yet. ! will offer 200? and see what happens? I am no expert either, I just search the posts and then ask questions to make sure.

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Old 03-16-2013, 04:44 PM
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good luck. its certainly worth that.

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Old 03-16-2013, 05:01 PM
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The owner is asking $350. What do ya think? Can it go for more? Or make an offer of 300? And walk if he won't go for it.

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Old 03-16-2013, 05:05 PM
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i would do a completed search on ebay for trans stamp 22's that have sold. it will give you an idea. they can command large bucks. not as much as the istanbul k's,but usually more than most of the other avedis. usually the thinner they are, the more they bring. nothing wrong with 2700 grams. but in a 22, something around 2200-2400 would bring the bucks in my opinion. its worth 3 if it sounds like you want.who knows what its worth if its the sound that you are looking for. go with your gut! they are holding their value pretty well.

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Old 03-16-2013, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: 22" Zildjian which stamp?

While I agree with Mike this looks 50s in morphology and lathing, I noticed something that puzzles me about that stamp. My own trans stamp and others I've seen have the H of "TurkisH Cymbal" lined up very nicely above the E of "MadE in USA". 1970s Stamps without the 3 dots don't have this very nice alignment. 1950s small stamps without the 3 dots have this nice alignment. 1960s stamps with the 3 dots do show this very nice alignment. Somebody just posted one of these here (although the lathing nearly took out the MADE IN USA you can still make out the top of it):



and hopefully you will see what I mean. Now go back to the beginning of this thread and have a look at the one you posted. It doesn't line up. So I'm posting this query in the hope that our resident philatelists can enlighten me about this.
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Old 03-16-2013, 07:27 PM
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good info zenstat!

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