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I have had 2 drum kits that had the tape method that the wrap was totally cracking and falling of off the shells.
heres some '96 premiers that had the wrap installed with the tape method from the factory. Decide for yourselves....... http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/show...light=premiers
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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl 1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P 1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite 1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD" 1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD" 1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD" 1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle 60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl 2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle 24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals Don't tell my wife! |
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Tape has one ENORMOUS advantage over glue, which is...if, during the rewrap, you screw up the postioning and/or edges (and its happened to me) , the tape allows you to quickly pull everything part and start again. The glue? Youre Screwed.
Also, lets say that in 3 years, a tape job does come loose. So?? Take 2 hours and retape it. I also think that the damage glue does to a shell causes far more problems than the tape does. Use the super sticky tape, use enough of it to make a strong bond and I think youre ahead of the game, I really do. One other thing: Lets say, you decide to sell pieces of your set, but keep (for example) the bass drum to use it with another set. Well, with the tape, you can, in 2 hours, change the wrap yet again, to match your other set. With Glue, youre looking at several days of stripping, sanding and yeeccchhh. |
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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl 1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P 1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite 1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD" 1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD" 1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD" 1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle 60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl 2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle 24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals Don't tell my wife! |
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As far as the wrap cracking or the seems lifting, well, I think we have all seen that even happen to wraps that are glued, I think it's more to do with how one takes care of there drums as opposed to if it's taped or glued, that's just my opinion, thanks. |
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I did a complete 5 piece Ludwig 6 ply kit wrapped with JamminSams wrap and tape. Turned out GREAT and sounded amazing. Sold 'em for more than I paid, so I didnt lose a cent. Win-Win, 'cause the buyer LOVED the shells.
Point is, those 6 ply drums seem to be made for this method. I checked out your updated pics. Great job! That floor tom looks slick.
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<<<<<<Dumb. Even the best drum restorers make mistakes. |
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Thats right, but after you have made a few mistakes, you learn what not to do, and it gets easier and easier.
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1960's SONOR 12-16-20-14 blue slate pearl 1968 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14Sky blue P 1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14BlueVistalite 1972 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-(14 impostor)BlackPanther "SOLD" 1964 Ludwig Oyster Black Pearl 22-12-13-16-14Supra "SOLD" 1969 LUDWIG 12-13-16-22-14 Citrus Mod "SOLD" 1969 LUDWIG Sexto-Plus 8-1 0-12-13-14-15-16-20-20-14 Silver Sparkle 60's Majestic Delux 12-13-16-22-14 red pearl 2009 Homemade Kids 8-10-13-16-12 Orange Sparkle 24 kits, 80 Snares, 65 Cymbals Don't tell my wife! |
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Retaping a job is duplication of effort. This might be fine if you actually like performing complete disassembly, but not much else, and certainly NOT if you are doing it for someone else.
Wrap needs to be glued down 100% to the substrate and NOT move, in order to prevent possible subsequent wrinkling, checking and cracking. The "edge tape" method, therefore is totally bogus in my opinion. 100% PSA backing is better, but I haven't seen a PSA that doesn't creep as it ages. There are other pro's who use it and who I respect e.g. Eric Sooy and Dennis Stauffer, but I've been using contact cement forever and have never had a finish lifting or separation issue, so I will stick with it. Yes, you get one shot with contact cement, but it's all in the prep and accuracy. I say do the job the right way once. Not the wrong way twice. |
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