Ludwig Black White Badge Blank

[maxaction]

Hello,

I have a Ludwig drumset that I am trying to sell and a potential buyer wants to know the vintage. He looked around and said it was very odd that the drums had a black and white badge with no serial number, or a blank as he called it.

The snare drum has an blue and olive badge with serial number: 3132469, while the bass and the three toms all have the black-white, blank ludwig badge, as seen in the picture below.

Can anyone help me figure out the date of these?

[Mo Tonkie]

I'm not an expert, but since the black/white badges don't say 'USA' on them it would seem that they are Asian-made drums.
The snare drum appears to be a mid-80s USA-made drum in my opinion.
The tom mount looks to be late 80s or early 90s.
http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/imag..._drumsets4.jpg

[Ludwig-dude]

Those are Rocker II's from around 1991-1992. American shells & lugs with import hardware that Ludwig started to use on the newly introduced Accent series around that time. No serial number was quite common.

Better than the Accent series, but not by much. Not a whole lot of worth to them, but still a decent sounding kit.

[human71]

+ 1 on what Ludwig-dude said.. The snare looks like chrome over wood with bowtie lugs ?

[Ludwig-dude]

Originally Posted by human71

+ 1 on what Ludwig-dude said.. The snare looks like chrome over wood with bowtie lugs ?

Sure does. That would make it a Rocker snare. The Rocker drums from 1984 had blue/olive badges still and used regular classic lugs. I believe that they did that up until about 1988. After that the Rockers got the Rocker II/Standard style lugs.