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Old 06-18-2012, 01:55 AM
LucasB78 LucasB78 is offline
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Default Star 4 Piece - Bass Drum Lugs required

Hello everyone,
Greetings from Christchurch New Zealand.
This is my first post on my new membership. My apologies if I have upset the locals already.
I have been admiring this forum from afar as ive become interested in vintage MIJ kits.

Anyway onto the good stuff huh ....

Recently I got my hands on a 5 piece Star Fantasia Pearl Star kit complete with original hardware albeit minus the original snare.
Sizes are (12x8,13x9,16x16,20x16).

In place of the original snare was a Pearl President 14x5" in some type of multi coloured stripe wrap? Maybe someone knows the colour code?

All hardware is present (including the original mufflers on all of the drums) however all resonant head hoops and heads are missing.

In the interest of getting up and running I have some spare hoops that will work but what I don't have is 4 bass drum lugs and eight star bass drum claws.

If anyone has 4xStar chrome bass drum lugs and 8xstar chrome bass drum claws and tension rods I could potentially swap you:

1 x 20" Original Black Plastic bass drum hoop with Fantasia Pearl inlay.

Or (I think) ZymGar rail mount and tom mount

Or ZymGar branded bass drum tension rods

Or some combo of the above by negotiation.

Look forward to any replies from the Vintage Drum Forum community.

Bass Drum Lugs:


Restored 12" Tom Ready for hoops and skins - Chromework was restored with Autosol metal polish
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_0036.jpg

Restored Pearl President Snare with new Remo Encore Ambassador Batter and Snare side:
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_0033.jpg

Pearl President Snare Throw off:
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_0034.jpg

Restored 12" interior Luan (know as Meranti in NZ) - grey sealer paint finish stripped, Danish Oiled and waxed:
http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/...8/IMG_0038.jpg

Star Bass Drum T-Rods and Claws:

Last edited by LucasB78; 06-20-2012 at 02:47 AM. Reason: Adding Images
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Old 06-19-2012, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: Star 4 Piece - Bass Drum Lugs required

Lucas. Nice kit. I'm not sure that the Snare is a Pearl President. I think it's just a President which was a stencil brand (I've seen President Guitars, too)
I'm sure Mikey777 will have the parts you need. Send him an email or PM through here.

How did you polish up the 12" shell? Novus is the best product I have found and you can buy it on Trademe http://www.trademe.co.nz/gaming/arca...-484646132.htm It really does an amazing job of the plastic wraps. I use the No.2 grade for most things.

Make sure you post pics of the kit when you're finished.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:29 AM
LucasB78 LucasB78 is offline
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Default Re: Star 4 Piece - Bass Drum Lugs required

Cheers Andrew.

"President".
Now I get it.
And I thought I had my head around the whole stencil thing! Got it now. Thanks for that.

I did wonder if Mikey777 would have the parts after watching from afar.
Have you imported from the USA before? (which I assume is where Mikey is?)

To polish the shells I used a damp cloth first to remove mostly dust.
Then Mothers Carnauba Cleaner Wax (Car wax) applied with Stockinette (aka Mutton Cloth ... now there's a kiwi term

A light buff on most of it and a more solid buff on the dirty/rusty bits. Seemed to get rid of the gunk.
I wasn't aware of the Novus product. Thanks for that link.

To clean the chrome-ware it was a wash in the sink with detergent. Dried.
Then used Autosol and stockinette. Some of the worst just got an initial dunk in the Autosol and left for a bit then rubbed and buffed with a separate cloth. I wasn't sure whether to go to 0000 steel wool on the rough bits or not so didn't.

The interior silver sealer paint was pretty dirty with finger prints so I bit the bullet and stripped it all off.
40 Grit onto 60 Grit, 80 Grit, 120, 180, 220 grit.
Followed by 2 coats of Briwax Danish Oil over 24 hours.
Then one good thick coat of Acorn Beeswax Polish to seal in the flavour.

Only managed to get the 12" Tom completed.
13" is stripped of the sealer to 60 grit only so far.

This is my weekend project

More images as it get further involved.
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Old 06-20-2012, 02:47 AM
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You're onto it.
The Novus polish has a mild abrasive quality, a bit like a cutting compound, and takes out the fine scratches. The end result is usually brilliant. I then finish with an automotive wax.
I use Autosol too. It seems pretty good.
I've never removed the sealer from the inside of the shells. I know what you mean as I've restored a couple of similar Star kits. They've usually been quite clean inside though.

As far as importing goes, it's easy. There is no duty on musical instruments and GST is only charged on values (including shipping) over about $400. Shipping is the biggest cost but on small parts like lugs etc, the cost is pretty reasonable.
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:42 AM
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Whoa!
So Mikey777 has the parts for me on PM. Its gonna cost a bomb but im dedicated on this now as Mike says:
"This is only the 3rd Fantasia Pearl Star kit he has seen in 35 years".
Id say thats pretty rare then ......

I would have left the silver sealer on the inside if I could have cleaned it up enough. I tried a few cleaners but it looked like grease/oil and i didnt want to get solvents anywhere near this kit.

The wrap is actually pretty good after a good clean and polish.

When Im further through the kit I will drag it out in the sun on a good day for a better pic.
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:09 AM
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Nice work. Yep, I've seen a couple on here http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/show...light=fantasia but I've never seen one in NZ before. Mind you, the strangest things show up in these parts.

So do you have 1 BD hoop with the Fantasia inlay? You could get a copy shop to make up a copy of the wrap and make another inlay and put it on another hoop. Definitely don't get rid of it.
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Old 06-20-2012, 04:20 AM
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Yeah I saw that Kent model and caught Steve Maxwells vid on Youtube

That kit is slightly different in its rack tom mounts and tom tension rods and lugs obviously.
I think that was the point that Mike was making. My particular model with its hardware the way it is was rare.

So yeah I like the idea about the bass drum hoops. Im also thinking that getting two brand new chrome over steel hoops wouldnt look out of place. Much like those of us who add a chrome snare when the original isnt with a kit. Wont be getting rid of the original in any case.

You wouldnt happen to have any older tom hoops would you?

12" 6 hole, 13' 6 hole and 16" 8 hole is what I need. I could order standard Taiwanese versions but if you had some more "vintage" versions I would be keen to buy them.
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:05 AM
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That kit is slightly different in its rack tom mounts and tom tension rods and lugs obviously.
I think that was the point that Mike was making. My particular model with its hardware the way it is was rare.

So yeah I like the idea about the bass drum hoops. Im also thinking that getting two brand new chrome over steel hoops wouldnt look out of place. Much like those of us who add a chrome snare when the original isnt with a kit. Wont be getting rid of the original in any case.

You wouldnt happen to have any older tom hoops would you?

12" 6 hole, 13' 6 hole and 16" 8 hole is what I need. I could order standard Taiwanese versions but if you had some more "vintage" versions I would be keen to buy them.
Yep, there's a Star kit more like yours further down the thread as well as a link to a catalogue.
The only spare hoops i have are pretty rough. I have just bought some new 12" ones for the Yamaha kit that look fine and were only $15 from Hawkes bay agencies (order them through your local music shop). I may have a spare plastic 20" BD hoop if you need one though.
If you go back and check out my Cymbal auction on TM there is a message from another trader for you there.
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Old 06-20-2012, 05:31 AM
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Default Re: Star 4 Piece - Bass Drum Lugs required

i thought you were going to send the pics to me. none the less i don't have the claws and t's in your pic.

the claws in your pic don't look that old. they look like modern claws i have and that can be bought at retail. atleast over here anyway. perhaps that claw has been used on many kit thru the years, i don't know.

as for my t-rods, the t's i have fit my lugs. again, the t's are a larger diameter and fit the lugs i have. hopefully yours are the same as well.

i have 2 sets:

- the set of 8 looks like (to me) what you have (i may only have 4, need to check)
- the set of 16 look just like the other 8.

the difference between the 2 is that the set of 8 have a bit of a flat face were the t-rod goes into, while the set of 16 are alittle more rounded on top.

and other than the minor differences in the interior of the lug (one must be a older version than the other) they look almost the same.
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Star 4 Piece - Bass Drum Lugs required

Hi Fish,
Yeah sorry was going to PM you but now 4 people have offered them to me it was easier to load them to the thread than to individually send them out.

I will need to look at your pics again later today and I will PM you back.

Thanks again for your help. I am really chuffed with the support extended from the community here.

You should all be very proud of yourselves
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