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Old 09-01-2019, 09:49 PM
Donovan Drums Donovan Drums is offline
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Default Premier Olympic Small Hardware

I'm working on my 70s Olympic snare drum. I attempted to remove the lugs for a complete spa treatment. Unfortunately, I encountered a screw head that while it appeared to be Phillips, a Phillips screwdriver does not mate up properly (see pic). Please let me know what tool I need to remove those screws properly.

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Old 09-02-2019, 05:22 AM
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Hi! I've encountered numerous Phillips-style screws when removing hardware from Premier drums over the years. I had the same problem, but found that through trying different Philips screwdrivers I eventually found one that worked. Sometimes it's as simple as finding one which has more of a point than another. As far as I'm aware, there's no special tool needed for this.
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:42 AM
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Hi! I've encountered numerous Phillips-style screws when removing hardware from Premier drums over the years. I had the same problem, but found that through trying different Philips screwdrivers I eventually found one that worked. Sometimes it's as simple as finding one which has more of a point than another. As far as I'm aware, there's no special tool needed for this.
It also may be that the inside of those screws were damaged by the guy (or gal) before me.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:01 AM
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Hi DD!

I think I may know what your issue might be! I have a set of 70's Premier snare drum lugs, with original Phillips-style screws. Upon closer inspection of the screws just now, I see that they are not Phillips, but a style called "Pozi". I have a set of both regular Phillips and Pozi-phillips bits. Here's a link that will be really helpful... https://www.finehomebuilding.com/201...ps-vs-pozidriv

I feel that this is your issue. Are these Pozi bits available in your area? Also, it's very easy for a standard Phillips screwdriver head to render the Pozi depression unserviceable. This has happened to me and I've had excellent results in just using a small pliers to grasp the round head and loosen it.

Hope this all helps. Let us know!

-Mark
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Old 09-02-2019, 01:26 PM
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Sounds like a Pozi scheme to me!
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Old 09-02-2019, 01:31 PM
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Sorry..couldn’t help it.......Getting back to Premier....what do you use to get the screws out of early 60s Drums?..They have like a star pattern..and they really drove those in....
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Old 09-02-2019, 03:27 PM
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Sounds like a Pozi scheme to me!
A "Pozi" scheme! I like it!

-Mark
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Old 09-02-2019, 04:53 PM
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No troubles.
Many years ago I've used for this purpose a simple slotted screwdriver modified with table grinding machine.

Cheers,
George.
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Old 09-03-2019, 10:01 AM
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That's useful to know! I never heard of Pozi until read your reply Mark! Guess I must have just got lucky, or had a 'Pozi-like' Philips knocking around!
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Old 09-03-2019, 10:55 AM
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There is another Phillips type called JIS which stands for Japanese Industrial Standard. As the name implies used by Japanese manufacturers. It is designed with even less "cam out" than Pozidriv. I wondered for years why my Phillips screwdrivers worked so poorly on Japanese screws. The beauty of the JIS screwdrivers is that they will work on Phillips screws and can even remove most Phillips that have been "rounded out". A must have if you work with a lot of Japanese products or Phillips screws.
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