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Old 11-14-2019, 02:56 PM
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Ca-lassic ZildJian 100%. Bill.
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Old 12-12-2019, 02:25 AM
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Old 12-12-2019, 01:36 PM
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that's where the reputation...was built.
what was it Bill 50- 57? think of all the be bop drummers..Tony caught the tail end of it..rode it to about 68 (70-73..)

O to have been of age and drumming, those early and mid 1950s years.
But course would be likely..deceased) by now..) and that's not good..

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Old 12-13-2019, 05:47 PM
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O to have been of age and drumming, those early and mid 1950s years.
But course would be likely..deceased) by now..) and that's not good..
Good point. I'd rather be alive now and looking back at a great era. And with all that we know now nobody has ever been able to recreate that uniquely K. quality. Back then they just were just another type of Zildjian only darker sounding, and priced to reasonably to compete with the rest. Now they've become this hyper-valuable icon emblematic of that era.
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Old 12-18-2019, 06:26 AM
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This is actually type IIIc which is probably least commonly seen K. trademark. The only way it can be deciphered is by freezing the earliest frame of the video. Just the crescent and star can uniquely identify this one.

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Old 12-18-2019, 07:46 PM
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The cymbal in the video is a Intermediate stamp. The moon and the star are not the same than in the type IIIc. Also the "made in Turkey" letters are very close to the crescent moon, in the IIIc type they are gradually separating from the moon at the sides.
Also, the arabic text in the cymbal from the video looks like the one used in Intermediate stamp.
I'm not sure that the IIIc type is the less common. I have seen many examples over the years. Actually, I have four IIIc K's (14",15",18" & 20")
The type I is uncommon in bigger sizes up to 20", I have never seen or known of a 22".
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:49 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/user/gattoniccol123/videos

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Old 12-18-2019, 08:39 PM
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The cymbal in the video is a Intermediate stamp. The moon and the star are not the same than in the type IIIc. Also the "made in Turkey" letters are very close to the crescent moon, in the IIIc type they are gradually separating from the moon at the sides.
Also, the arabic text in the cymbal from the video looks like the one used in Intermediate stamp.
I'm not sure that the IIIc type is the less common. I have seen many examples over the years. Actually, I have four IIIc K's (14",15",18" & 20")
The type I is uncommon in bigger sizes up to 20", I have never seen or known of a 22".
I'm sorry, I was wrong. It's acatually a IVb.
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Old 12-19-2019, 11:07 PM
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I'm sorry, I was wrong. It's acatually a IVb.
So I guess that finding disqualifies this cymbal from being in this thread then anyway. We need a separate thread for the type IV examples only, which would be appropriate since these are quite different from the other old stamps. The much talked about Tony Williams 22" K., is an example also from this era.
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Old 12-20-2019, 01:25 AM
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Old Ks. Sound like the Devil on Halloween night.

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