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Old 01-12-2015, 05:44 PM
mbettis mbettis is offline
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Default Re: Old K's Don't HAVE to be Grungy...

No, it was both.

I think that a 2900 gram 22" K is so heavy that it loses most of what makes K's so special.

At that weight, they have a ton of stick... ...but so does any 2900 gram 22.

You also lose most of the complex wash that K's are known for.

To me, a heavy K doesn't sound better than any other heavy cymbal.

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Old 01-12-2015, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Old K's Don't HAVE to be Grungy...

How heavy is Jon Christensen's 22?
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Old 01-13-2015, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Old K's Don't HAVE to be Grungy...

8 lbs I recall......sold one years ago to Bruce Wittet in Ottawa,Ca.....he actually wanted the heaviest K I could find,as Jon C had a Heavy.....

Jon C. actually used Bruce's K on a gig or two Bruce said....
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Old 01-13-2015, 02:22 PM
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No, it was both.

I think that a 2900 gram 22" K is so heavy that it loses most of what makes K's so special.

At that weight, they have a ton of stick... ...but so does any 2900 gram 22.

You also lose most of the complex wash that K's are known for.

To me, a heavy K doesn't sound better than any other heavy cymbal.

Thanks,
Matt
I think that may also depend on the specific cymbal. The late lamented Drummer's World in New York City had a 22" heavy old K for sale somewhere between 2003 to 2005 or there about. I didn't identify the weight at the time but it was at least as heavy as my 22" Bosphorus Ferit Turk which weighs 2941g. I was seriously considering it. Its sounded fantastic and was in excellent shape, very clean, no grunge, but with a dark patina for only ...$900. Yeah, while the prices were a lot lower back then, it was still a great price. It had a complex trashy sound but I wanted something thinner and passed on it. I was back two weeks later to pick up some sticks and the owner, Barry, told me that Stanton Moore had just picked it up. It clearly went to a good home. While I understand what you are saying, I think this one had a wonderfully complex sound regardless of its heavier weight. And while perhaps you could have gotten even more out of it by applying your talents, it sounded so good as is I personally would not have wanted to risk it.
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Old 01-13-2015, 03:04 PM
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She does sound great!

Check her out...

http://youtu.be/VYzLgbTsmt4

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Can't argue with the sound. Its a keeper!!
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