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Old 08-06-2019, 09:51 PM
vyacheslav vyacheslav is offline
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Greetings,

I came across these recently at an excellent price, so I snagged them. The store I bought them from had them listed as a "Refinished Pearl" kit. Looking at them, I knew they were something different and probably (hopefully) better. I need my friends here on the forum to help me identify them.

The shells are very light. The bass drum is 8 ply, the toms are 6 ply. It appears to be Maple, though I can't be 100% sure. The sizes are 10", 12" 14", 16" 20". The are finished in a cool blue-ish matte lacquer. The bearing edges are flawless on all the drums. All the drums are virgins, including the bass. The mounting hardware on the toms (except the 16") were Pearl I.S.S. brackets with Tama or Gibraltar style brackets (that accept L-arms). All the brackets were cracked. The 16" had a knock off RIMS Floor Tom Suspension type mount.

The drums don't appear to be altered at all. The only evidence of "tampering" on any of the drums is on the breather hole, where there aren't perfectly clean holes drilled on two of the toms. There are no extra holes in any of the drums. The 14" and 16" toms have gaskets on the inside of the drum as well. The lugs are the round, DW style and they are 1-5/8" in diameter, with large rubber gaskets underneath. The hole spacing for the lugs is 1-7/16". The bass drum came with matching wood hoops (matching matte lacquer on the inside and out). All the toms came with 2.3 mm hoops. There are no badges, or even badge remnants anywhere. If you look in the background of Photo 2, you can see the bass drum does have Export Style spurs, but there are no extra holes or alterations, so I would assume those spurs are original to the kit. That's probably why the store had them advertised as a "Refinished Pearl Kit". Based upon my research and my own drum nerdiness, I have a guess as to what they could be:

I think these might be early Keller drums. Everyone knows they make shells, but I believe for a short time in the mid to late 90's they also made complete drums. I did a search for Keller Drums and I had several results that were DW drums (badged DW). The last photo (in the reply below) shows a DW looking kit with a badge that I can't make out (perhaps Camco)? Although the lugs on my kit are very similar to DW, they look a little bigger and bulkier. Again, in my (admittedly faded) recollection of seeing Keller Drums, they used these type of lugs. The only other time I have seen these lugs is on Dixon wood piccolo snares (second to last photo), which also had the large rubber gasket underneath. Were these lugs available from a supplier in the secondary market (maybe Universal Percussion)? Also, if anyone here has a "regular" DW Drum, if you could measure the diameter of the lugs, I would really appreciate it.

I am very interested to hear your opinions on what you think these might be. Thanks in advance for your response.
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:52 PM
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One more photo:

This came up when I searched "Keller Drums".
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Old 08-07-2019, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: What did I just buy?

well the naturals are definitely Camco, as you can see the cloud badges.

I would think the blue set could be ANY boutique builder. They look nice, hopefully you got a bargain. I like the look!
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Old 08-07-2019, 11:56 AM
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Default Re: What did I just buy?

They kinda look like Hayman lugs.

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Old 08-07-2019, 01:23 PM
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They kinda look like Hayman lugs.

Wayne
I agree.

There are two Hayman kits on e bay, and they look very similar. From the"turret" style lugs to the shell interior, they look identical. The only thing is, you said they are light and one of the sellers says they are heavy.

Great looking kits!
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:12 AM
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Hi all after going over your photos the set is a home made set .Shells are maple the lugs are copy's of Hayman,Camco,DW ...Just a side note back in 1991 we at O.C.D.P used these type of. Lugs on the first drums we made..
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