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Old 06-16-2019, 12:16 PM
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Default Type I,II,III old K s

(post) anything -new- current- -to do with- old K Z (istanbul) I, II, and III
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Old 06-18-2019, 12:54 PM
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Wish I had more experience with III's, II's, and I's.
But of course these are the 'big money" ones.
I have had a 14" 793g which as a high hat top is exquisite in that---- you sound- it makes you sound like "1953" instantly inescapably. Lovely.

But it's that "butterfly breath" sound (III's)

II's and I's not familiar (at all with) Over at CH a member always had a II or I (big ones 20s etc) and they were as exotic as the price it took to acquire.

But quite an era. III's. Sound era Primo. Can get trapped in "sounding old' but that fades ; ) away. But could happen some great old era Ks are tough to mix with say a "cool jazz' guitar.

Suited more to all acoustic band. That's about the only knock on them I can imagine.
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Old 06-24-2019, 12:47 PM
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Bill and others; check this out; Had come across this story year or so back; Mention is made "of the Big K"...


http://www.turkishculture.org/music/...cymbal-285.htm

paragraph 4 in
the big (II insignia to III?) K ...

"Meanwhile in a foundry near Yedikule, Mikael Usta, who had taken up production in the footsteps of Big Kerope, began stamping a large... "

years don't seem to line up but maybe they do ..never read mention of it before..; )

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Old 06-24-2019, 01:16 PM
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Bill and others; check this out; Had come across this story year or so back; Mention is made "of the Big K"...


http://www.turkishculture.org/music/...cymbal-285.htm

paragraph 4 in
the big (II insignia to III?) K ...

"Meanwhile in a foundry near Yedikule, Mikael Usta, who had taken up production in the footsteps of Big Kerope, began stamping a large... "

years don't seem to line up but maybe they do ..never read mention of it before..; )
Interesting read. The article seems to skip around 200+ years. Also, understandably since this is a Turkish article, It also fails to mention any details about the business continuing in the US in 1927 as Avedis Zildjian, or the transfer of the ownership of the K .Zildjian brand to Armand in around 1977. There are likely other flaws or misstatements in the article, but I'll leave that to Drumaholic and others to correct.
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Old 06-24-2019, 06:16 PM
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Oh I love it

because its concentrated looking from the Turkish side; from a Turkish viewpoint;
Turkish Culture

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I think it's incredible. the story about the "big K' must be lore in those small towns word of mouth. Certainly the "K" did Change and I believe what that is referring to.



"Meanwhile in a foundry near Yedikule, Mikael Usta, who had taken up production in the footsteps of Big Kerope, began stamping a large ‘K’ on the cymbals he made in the Great Master’s name."
http://www.turkishculture.org/music/...cymbal-285.htm

To have that in a Turkish written story I think is incredible

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Oh I love it

because its concentrated looking from the Turkish side; from a Turkish viewpoint;
Turkish Culture

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I think it's incredible. the story about the "big K' must be lore in those small towns word of mouth. Certainly the "K" did Change and I believe what that is referring to.



"Meanwhile in a foundry near Yedikule, Mikael Usta, who had taken up production in the footsteps of Big Kerope, began stamping a large ‘K’ on the cymbals he made in the Great Master’s name."
http://www.turkishculture.org/music/...cymbal-285.htm

To have that in a Turkish written story I think is incredible
It's very interesting no doubt.. I'm guessing a lot of the information may have come from either Istanbul Mehmet or Istanbul Agop employees.
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Old 06-24-2019, 08:17 PM
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whatever soothes ay-
I would tend to think there's other records- a Turkish Cultural could have access to;townspeople; deeds;buildings;
whats in there is almost more "folk" like " the hammers were silent in the town:.etc
it could but not everything comes from Mehmet

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Old 07-08-2019, 04:07 AM
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Here's one. A type IIIa OS....21" exact. Even though they didn't make 21 incher's, here's one anyway. And no, it's not a cut-down.




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21" K. OS type IIIa
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Old 07-08-2019, 12:39 PM
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Here's one. A type IIIa OS....21" exact. Even though they didn't make 21 incher's, here's one anyway. And no, it's not a cut-down.




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21" K. OS type IIIa

That cymbal is really nice to hear. It cuts.

If an order for 24" down to 20" came in the door, a 21 will be made.
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Old 07-08-2019, 03:21 PM
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