E-Bay luddy ??

[OddBall]

I saw this on the bay,...seller says all original,...but I don`t know...

...12x15....badge location....those legs !!

[blairndrums]

All original..except the FT bracket and legs!

[billnvick]

It appears to have been a marching drum originally, with the floor tom leg brackets added later. In the second picture I would guess the extra bracket above was simply added to cover some other bracket's holes...

12x15 was/is a standard size for a marching drum (either snare or tenor) and for a marching drum the placement of the breather hole/badge directly under the tone control was standard placement.

Bill

[MME]

12x15 floor tom 1958 pre-serial number and original

[billnvick]

Originally Posted by MME

12x15 floor tom 1958 pre-serial number and original

Yes, without double-checking, up to about 62 or 63 what we all know as the Ludwig "Club Date" set came with 14x22, 9x13, and a 12x15 floor tom, as compared to the Club Date 14x20, 8x12, and 14x14 FT. Ludwig used the same 12x15 shells for both marching drums and floor toms for these sets. Just different hardware.

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced the drum OddBall posted is a converted marching drum probably a tom or "tenor" drum (no holes for throw-off or butt), and the two "lined-up" leg brackets (2nd pic) where covering the two standard clip mount brackets that it with one or two other toms would be "clipped" on to the same carrier...

[billnvick]

BTW -- here's the eBay item #: 170798599958

The seller don't know what he has. He lists it as "early 70s" and also states it has the 6-ply shell which didn't show up until the late 70s. He also states "All hardware is original and/or vintage" but the floor tom leg brackets appear to me to be the new ones you can order now. Yes, the brackets are the same as the older ones (note the "top" one has the hex-nut), but the wings screws appear to be the same as what is available now (and also was available in the 80s). Also, I can't make out the serial #, but it is a 7-digit number which puts the drum in the late 70s at the earliest.

And personally, I think his starting bid and BIN are both unrealistic.
But, who knows? It may be worth that to someone.
In any case this guy could be setting himself up for a "item not as described" case. Except for the fact that someone who knows what it is probably is not going to be bidding...

Just my thoughts... sorry for ramblin' AGAIN.
Bill

Oops, another possibility -- it could be a regular tom with the L-arm mount that someone added floor tom legs/brackets to at a later date. The best evidence against this possibility, however, is the placement of the breather hole/badge, which as I said before is standard marching drum placement.

And, it COULD be one of those "special order" oddities...

Oh well.