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Old 09-02-2019, 08:45 AM
DaveC1966 DaveC1966 is offline
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Default WFL Classic snare strainer restoration question

I recently bought a late 50's WFL kit which included a 5.5x14 classic snare. I don't know the exact year of the kit as the interior of the shells have all been painted white at some stage. The strainer on the snare had been replaced, I imagine early on as the replacement strainer looks to be 50s and is similar to a P-83 (holes down the bottom) but with three attachment points (two at the top and one below), none of which line up with the fixing points of the original strainer. I mistakenly bought a P83 strainer thinking that was what I needed but now find that the original fixing points are much closer together (35mm) which, based on my research, would indicate the strainer was a P-87 like this:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ludwig-W...53.m1438.l2649

The butt plate is the original WFL branded P-32 style.
My question is, should I:
a) Leave the current strainer as is. It's serviceable although the action is very light
b) Buy a P-87 strainer (perhaps the one EBay above), although I understand replacement snare wires are very hard to find, but I'm not sure if that's the case when you have the P-32 style butt plate rather than the P-34
c) Buy a new strainer that has adjustable hole spacing such as that produced by Inde drums, or the Dunnett R4 and fit it to the holes for the original strainer, leaving the butt plate as is?

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts
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Old 09-04-2019, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: WFL Classic snare strainer restoration question

A more direct question might be, given the 35 mm spacing of the original fixings (shown in the attached photo), do people think that the original strainer would likely have been a WFL P-87 like the one in the Ebay link in my original post?
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Old 09-04-2019, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: WFL Classic snare strainer restoration question

So what is on there now is a Slingerland 3 point?

Unless you're a WFL purist, i'd leave it alone. The damage (ie mod) has already been done, and the mix of brands is now part of its history. At least now, the next owner can clearly see what has happened. If you go back to the P87, they'll be left wandering 'now why are there three extra holes here'? Plus the P87 isn't all that great of a throw either.

I have a beautiful WFL complete BR superclassic kit in gold sparkle, and the only mod on it is the cymbal mount on the bass. When I bought the drums, a Slingerland mount was there. But clearly a Rogers swivo once resided there. In my anal-ness, I had to find an original WFL mount and L-arm to put back on to 'make it right'. Guess what - that WFL mount can't hold the weight of a ride, and the extra holes still show.
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Old 09-04-2019, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: WFL Classic snare strainer restoration question

I have a 1961 Super Classic snare drum with P87 strainer and P32 butt. Has the original snare wires, too! Finding wires are a near impossibility! I do have a set of NOS Puresound PLS1416 wires for this drum! Other members have found ways to modify other wires to work with this drum. Bottom line? Leave your drum the way it is and enjoy it!

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Old 09-04-2019, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: WFL Classic snare strainer restoration question

Thanks John,
Thatís helpful. This is my first vintage kit and I could only afford a player which has had a few mods (including the original WFL cymbal L arm mount being swapped out for the later model Ludwig, which I imagine works whole lot better than the original).
My inclination was, as you say, to Ďmake it rightí but I agree with you that the mod is an honest part of the drumís history and, particularly given it was probably fairly early in in the life of the drum, best left as is.

Thanks for helping me figure that out.

Dave
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Old 09-04-2019, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: WFL Classic snare strainer restoration question

Thanks Mark for confirming that the snare wires are very difficult to source for that strainer/butt combination. Iím going to take your and Johnís advice and leave things as they are.

Out of curiosity can anyone confirm that the current strainer is a Slingerland 3-point? I took a look at images online and my strainer certainly appears similar but not the same as any of the models I found.

Thanks,
David
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