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Old 09-03-2019, 10:10 AM
thejohnlec thejohnlec is offline
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Hi all,

I had been wanting to find a white marine pearl Hollywood Ace for about a year to add to the snare collection. I found one from a collector close by who was going to charge me a fair market price for the instrument kit, including the original case and stand. I always put a percentage of gig money aside for gear purchases, and was about a week from pulling the trigger on it.

This past weekend, one of my musician colleagues stops by my house with not only the exact Hollywood Ace I was targeting, but a matching 20" kick drum as well. He knew I was on the lookout and had these from a deceased family member. "As long as you play them, consider them yours." Blown away! I was so excited, I used the snare on the gig with him that night. He had some family members there as well, and they were pleased to see that it will live on in caring hands.

The badge and chocolate milk interiors on both point to around 1968. The snare is mint with the WMP in beautiful condition, with all original hardware. The kick drum needs some basic surface cleaning as well as the spurs.

In addition to the kick drum spurs, I'll probably be on the lookout for a 14" matching floor tom (or a marcher to convert) or 12" mounted tom as well so I'll have a dope little combo kit for duo and trio gigs. Please PM me if anyone has a possible line on those parts for sale or trade.

Thanks for reading!
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Old 09-03-2019, 11:34 AM
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Congrats! Could you share some serial numbers? First three digits will suffice (e.g. 234xxx).
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Old 09-03-2019, 11:39 AM
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Great looking Slingerland drums! I've had a few Hollywood Ace snare drums. Same shell and number of lugs as the #153 Artist snare drum, but with the Rapid strainer and standard butt.

I believe you are correct dating them to around 1968. I see the aluminum Setomatic bracket on the bass drum, which would indicate 1968 to early 1969.

-Mark
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Old 09-03-2019, 02:49 PM
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Congrats! Could you share some serial numbers? First three digits will suffice (e.g. 234xxx).
Thanks for the reply! Serials are 195533 on the snare and 220280on the kick drum.

Cheers!
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Old 09-03-2019, 02:51 PM
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Great looking Slingerland drums! I've had a few Hollywood Ace snare drums. Same shell and number of lugs as the #153 Artist snare drum, but with the Rapid strainer and standard butt.

I believe you are correct dating them to around 1968. I see the aluminum Setomatic bracket on the bass drum, which would indicate 1968 to early 1969.

-Mark
Thanks Mark. I used that snare twice this weekend and was really pleased with the tone and tuning range, and that wrap looks so good! I'll do a quick clean up on the kick drum and will be able to gig it as soon as I find some spurs.

Cheers!
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:12 PM
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Thanks for the reply! Serials are 195533 on the snare and 220280on the kick drum.

Cheers!
'68 (later) for the snare. '69 for the kick. Everything looks good.
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:20 PM
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I believe you are correct dating them to around 1968. I see the aluminum Setomatic bracket on the bass drum, which would indicate 1968 to early 1969.

-Mark
Mark, Slingerland historian Dr. CJ Wenk has stated the aluminum set-o-matic was used thru early '70. His work is 10+ years old. Is there some new information available that disputes that claim?
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Old 09-05-2019, 08:46 PM
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I think they only used that mount for 1 year also....not into the 70s by any means...
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Old 09-05-2019, 10:03 PM
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Mark, Slingerland historian Dr. CJ Wenk has stated the aluminum set-o-matic was used thru early '70. His work is 10+ years old. Is there some new information available that disputes that claim?
Hi slingerfan!

I don't dispute the Dr's. claim at all! What je fails to take into account is that the chromed version was available sometime in 1969. But, like everything else, Slingerland still used up their stock of aluminum holders. Honestly, the aluminum version was, in my opinion, nothing more than a stop-gap design until the chromed version was ready.

My 1968-69 BR 80N came with the aluminum Setomatic, but was atrocious with the lack of good looks and the amount of screw marks on both ends of both the single tom holder. While the chromed version did nothing to eliminate the screw marks on the down-tube, the design of the new Setomatic tom bracket eliminated this issue.

Pictured is the original aluminum tom holder, plus an extra bass drum bracket. Look at all those screw marks on the arm that extends into the tom!

-Mark
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Old 09-05-2019, 11:43 PM
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In post #4 of this old thread Dr. Wenk mentions the aluminum set-o-matic being used into early 1970, chrome introduced late '69.
http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/show...um+set+o+matic
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