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Old 01-07-2016, 01:12 PM
Dan Boucher Dan Boucher is offline
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Default Drums Louie Bellson is Playing

Can anyone identify the drums Louie Bellson is playing here. It was some time back because he was relatively young at the time - maybe late 50's.

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Old 01-07-2016, 01:21 PM
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Remp PTS.(1980's)
Some of the worst drums that were ever manufactured.
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Old 01-07-2016, 01:44 PM
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Don't know but it swings like hell. I was trying to work out how many bars it was in solo! No, I know -nice open solo. Thanks for showing that.
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Old 01-07-2016, 02:52 PM
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Thanks pgm554. They look nasty, but it does tend to support my general position that a good drummer can make just about anything sound pretty good. My drum teacher could make my 1967 imported Laboz Slingerland knock-off set sound like his real Slingerlands and Louie's doing it with these drums too.

Agreeing with Olddrumgeek also. The guy was a swinging drummer. I got to see him play at the Double Tree Hotel Lounge in Boston very late in his career. He was a bit feeble, but could play very well. Super nice guy too and I have his autograph across the Twin-Bass page of my 67-68 Rogers catalog!
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Old 01-07-2016, 04:02 PM
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"In 1982 Remo introduced the PTS (Pre-Tuned Series) heads, which were drum heads tensioned on their own hoops. The PTS heads could be directly mounted on special PTS drum kits without requiring further adjustment or tuning. PTS drums never became a great success, but they marked Remo’s entrance into the drum making business.

In the late 1980s Remo also introduced some new PTS drum set lines called Liberator and Innovator..."

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Old 01-07-2016, 05:28 PM
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I've played the PTS and the concept just sounded better on paper (those drum shells were a step above paper mache).

The bearing edges would collapse upon themselves after a while and the PTS heads were just awful sounding.

There were 3 pre set tensions and sounds with those heads(pre tuned ,get it?),so if you wanted to tune them your way,no can do.
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Old 01-07-2016, 06:47 PM
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The wrap and the lugs weren't particularly interesting looking. The set just looked cheap.
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Old 01-07-2016, 08:22 PM
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Louie stayed with Remo drums for the rest of his life although he didn't use the PTS for long. The later sets were much better. I set them up for him on several occasions. They were heavy but they sounded great...of course anything Louie put a stick to would.
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Old 01-08-2016, 12:57 AM
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K.O.

I've lifted those later model Remos, and you are right-on. They are very heavy. I've not played any, but would be put off by the weight before ever getting there. I've always looked to keep the weight to reasonably low levels to minimize the hauling effort.

With the PTS drums, they sound a bit tiny if you're really focused on the drums sound, but the interesting thing is that Louie still manages to get a good overall sound for in that quintet. I also remain amazed that even in quintet play, he still took along his full double bass/double floor tom set-up.
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Old 01-08-2016, 02:17 AM
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They do look cheap and nasty, but he doesn't half make 'em sound good!
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