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Forum: Vintage Cymbals 02-09-2015, 04:46 PM
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Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Please help me ID these hi hats - New Beats?

The "60's stamp" didn't necessarily end in 1970. It's called that because it was used longer in the 60's. I just sold a set of brilliant Zildjians, of which the bottom had the same "60's stamp," yet...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 12-09-2014, 05:10 PM
Replies: 14
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Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Question: CB700, Tosco, Italy, Brass

DrummerJohn333,

To each his own, but if you haven't already, you might just sell some of these and buy yourself one good B20 cymbal from the modern UFIP lines. Supernovas are the only ones that...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 12-05-2014, 10:38 PM
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Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Question: CB700, Tosco, Italy, Brass

I went through a situation recently that required a return but it was such a pain and even after an Ebay dispute would've cost me shipping to send them back. In my case there was nothing wrong with...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 11-26-2014, 06:37 PM
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Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: UFIP 86' chinese

Old thread but no more info. UFIP's email is actually: info@ufip.it

Solid Ride was a series of hand hammered cymbals. Very general purpose. The Cymbal Book compares these to K or HH, while their...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 11-19-2014, 11:32 PM
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Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Question: CB700, Tosco, Italy, Brass

After I replied I went on Ebay and looked up recently sold "CB-700 hi hat," I remember this listing and thinking that they looked really bright. I think the seller had listed a set of 14" CB's that...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 11-17-2014, 10:48 PM
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Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Question: CB700, Tosco, Italy, Brass

Tris66,

Can you post some pictures of these cymbals you received? Are they as thick as "bronze," because my experience is that NORMALLY brass ones are bendable thin.
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 11-16-2014, 11:27 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 3,334
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: I would appreciate some help recognizing cymbals

The thing with the size being slightly off on these older cymbals, especially Italian ones, was that during that time, European cymbal makers still made their cymbals according to metric sizes, not...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 11-16-2014, 11:18 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 2,437
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Question: CB700, Tosco, Italy, Brass

Sounds like someone made an assumption based on a tiny bit of info on the net, listed their item, and pawned it off for someone else to figure out. I would file a claim (if Ebay) and since they were...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 11-13-2014, 03:53 PM
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Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Mystery cymbals

Incidentally, I was told by a guy at Guitar Center that Agazarian is just Wuhan stencil branded for GC. It makes sense in bringing together the Chinese mystery, but I always shake my head that Ag is...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 11-11-2014, 10:45 PM
Replies: 22
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Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Mystery cymbals

My vote is Chinese and pressed. One thing about Wuhan casting and pressing is that their B20 is very soft and porous, unlike the Italian makers, who seem to produce a harder, denser alloy. The...
Forum: For Sale 11-05-2014, 11:27 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 2,694
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: So why can't I sell these?

My experience is that people just aren't ask quick to pull the trigger, unless you find someone who is just in the market for a kit close by. I have had good BIN items sit for 120 days before someone...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 10-25-2014, 09:22 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 1,688
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Tosco Originals

Very cool. Yes, I believe that was the logo from before Sabian, although I believe the "Sabian B20" line were the same or similar. I have been told that there are some with the Sabian B20 ink on them...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 10-23-2014, 11:07 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 934
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Vintage UFIP question

Well that's a bummer.
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 10-23-2014, 08:35 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 934
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Vintage UFIP question

No worries. Thinking back, I do not believe that UFIP put their name on anything but very general pro cymbals during this period, much like their current Class series, or like an Avedis Zildjian. ...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 10-23-2014, 07:56 AM
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Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Vintage UFIP question

UFIP made (and makes) everything from top quality to more economical offers. Their top quality stuff rivals anyone's. Do you have a picture of the whole cymbal? Seeing the lathing would tell me more.
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 10-22-2014, 08:53 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 2,886
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: B20 by sabian 20" chinese

B20 by Sabian, as opposed to many of the "Tosco by Sabian" cymbals made later in the 80s, were a pro cymbal line. Tosco made these for Sabian under contract before the Zildjian settlement that...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 09-24-2014, 10:50 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,389
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: Hi-Hat - what company made?

Wow. Very odd appearance.

No engravings anywhere?
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 07-08-2014, 12:12 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 726
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: cymbals info pls...

Yes, the 505 is bronze. It's of a type called B8 bronze, or as Paiste calls it, CuSn8. 92% copper, 8% tin.

Are there any engraved markings on the third cymbal?

Oh, and that NS12 stands for...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-30-2014, 09:14 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 6,869
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: No Name Cymbal

Lathing actually shaves off part of the cymbal. Whether a UFIP rotocast pie, or a Turkish style rolled and pressed pie, any "scratching" on the raw cymbal would be long gone after a lathe touches it.
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-30-2014, 09:12 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 6,869
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: No Name Cymbal

Lathe chatter and/or the machine hammering on top of the lathing.
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-26-2014, 03:35 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 6,869
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: No Name Cymbal

Again, a cymbal where the bell is thicker that the surrounding bow is a good indication of a cymbal that has been cast, rather than pressed.
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-26-2014, 03:33 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 6,869
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: No Name Cymbal

I've been looking at a number of older and newer cymbals lately where I see these radial lines. They really show up well when the contrast of a given picture is increased. I'm almost convinced that...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-24-2014, 10:41 PM
Replies: 35
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Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: No Name Cymbal

They do look like some Spizz cymbals I've seen. Some are much more hand hammered though. I don't know how to identify a true Spizz vs. the imposters. I know there were Chinese knock-offs in the...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-24-2014, 11:00 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 6,869
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: No Name Cymbal

Regarding the swirl on the cymbals. Take a look. Is this what you are referring to?

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=37602&page=3
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-23-2014, 01:13 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 6,869
Posted By jeff_r0x
Re: No Name Cymbal

You still don't have them yet? Let us know when you do.
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