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Forum: Vintage Cymbals 02-04-2020, 08:40 AM
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Posted By mbettis
Re: Why doesn't anyone reverse engineer old K's?

The Old Stamp K's are less refined than most modern cymbals from a production standpoint. For instance, that "twist" you mention to is lathe chatter, and is now generally frowned upon by cymbal...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-31-2020, 12:23 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 805
Posted By mbettis
Re: Why doesn't anyone reverse engineer old K's?

The first one is an Old K. The second is one of my renditions of an Old K. Both are 20's.

Thanks!
Matt
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-31-2020, 10:03 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 805
Posted By mbettis
Re: Why doesn't anyone reverse engineer old K's?

I think that a couple of us out there do a pretty fair job of it.

https://bettiscymbals.com/posts/20_Old_K_Clone_02.jpg

Thanks,
Matt
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-03-2020, 09:39 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 987
Posted By mbettis
Re: Ordered "No Brand" hi-hats for $33?

The lathe chatter on the underside of that cymbal looks distinctly Chinese to me.

Matt
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 10-13-2019, 08:03 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,481
Posted By mbettis
Re: Anybody re-lathed their old K's

I hear you. However, I view them a lot like I view classic cars.

For example, if I got my hands on a 1965 K-code 2+2 fastback Mustang with a four speed, GT package, pony interior, and styled...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 10-08-2019, 12:11 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,481
Posted By mbettis
Re: Anybody re-lathed their old K's

I've done it a few times. Made a few hundred bucks.

To do it while at least maintaining resale value, you have to take the weight off the bottom, match the original lathing style, and then...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-16-2019, 08:34 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,075
Posted By mbettis
Re: Bettis Decides Not To Shave

Bought another wife-unauthorized whitewater dory boat, had to make a deal to help pay for it.

Thanks,
Matt
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-14-2019, 11:40 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,075
Posted By mbettis
Re: Bettis Decides Not To Shave

heheheh.... I'm not sure that a heavy New Stamp compares well with a Stradivarius.

Matt
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-14-2019, 10:15 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,075
Posted By mbettis
Re: Bettis Decides Not To Shave

If I had a loud gig, I'd play the Hell out of this cymbal.

It's very cool. But, nobody wants it, because it's a piggy piggy. I haven't received a single offer on it. Telling.

....I take that...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 06-14-2019, 10:11 AM
Replies: 115
Views: 6,547
Posted By mbettis
Re: Cymbalholic Site Closing down

I'll always remain grateful to Cymbalholic for introducing me to the work of Skiba, Roberto, M. Paiste, Hubback, and Johan.

I will admit, however, it was less fun after Bill was burned at the...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-02-2017, 02:46 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 4,759
Posted By mbettis
Re: 18" K Constantinople on eBay

Yep, or might be a great suspended cymbal.

Later,
Matt
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 12-23-2016, 10:33 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 4,759
Posted By mbettis
Re: 18" K Constantinople on eBay

Hey Mitch,

Sorry, but I just don't have the time for mod jobs.

I recommend Heather Stine. You can find her on Facebook.

Thanks,
Matt
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 12-23-2016, 08:59 AM
Replies: 22
Views: 4,759
Posted By mbettis
18" K Constantinople on eBay

Grail of Grails? I think so.

Not mine. Wish she were.
...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 04-28-2016, 01:15 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 1,272
Posted By mbettis
Re: Fake Spizzichinos on eBay

Roberto's cymbals are what inspired me to become a cymbalsmith. I am very familiar with his work, and have owned over 40 of his cymbals. It's not scientific, but that's how I can tell.

Notice...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 04-28-2016, 11:44 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 1,272
Posted By mbettis
Fake Spizzichinos on eBay

The 13" hats on eBay right now are the latest in a series of fake Spizzichinos that this particular seller has been selling on eBay.

Beware.

Later,
Matt
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 04-28-2016, 11:43 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 3,992
Posted By mbettis
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 04-26-2016, 11:03 AM
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Views: 3,992
Posted By mbettis
Re: Who Here Uses a 26" or Larger Ride?

I used to gig my Zildjian 26 and a 30. The 30 was fun, but required an extra, dedicated, two-handed trip to the car.

The 26 I now use as part of my backing plate system when I'm lathing the...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-19-2016, 11:29 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 2,513
Posted By mbettis
Re: Newbie with K Zildjian made in Turkey

I do not believe that that is the case. I think that the "signature" was generic.

Later,
Matt
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 09-06-2015, 09:42 AM
Replies: 21
Views: 5,762
Posted By mbettis
Re: Cymbal Patina: Does it change the sound?

I put a light coat of Lemon Pledge on my new cymbals. It oxidizes the bronze very slightly, just enough to help keep finger prints and other patina in check. In an old Modern Drummer, Paiste also...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-12-2015, 05:44 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 4,483
Posted By mbettis
Re: Old K's Don't HAVE to be Grungy...

No, it was both.

I think that a 2900 gram 22" K is so heavy that it loses most of what makes K's so special.

At that weight, they have a ton of stick... ...but so does any 2900 gram 22.

You...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-12-2015, 04:27 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 4,483
Posted By mbettis
Re: Old K's Don't HAVE to be Grungy...

I think what really killed the first auction were the casting flaws that looked a lot like cracks. Nobody was willing to take a chance on that, and I don't blame them one bit.

I guess the market...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-11-2015, 10:59 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 4,483
Posted By mbettis
Re: Old K's Don't HAVE to be Grungy...

She does sound great!

Check her out...

http://youtu.be/VYzLgbTsmt4

Thanks,
Matt
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-11-2015, 02:18 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 4,483
Posted By mbettis
Re: Old K's Don't HAVE to be Grungy...

Thanks for the kind words. And yeah, I know some will hate me for what I did. And, that's OK.

I took this baby to the lathe for two reasons:
1) $$$
2) Fun

I got her cheap on eBay. Just me...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 01-10-2015, 04:14 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 4,483
Posted By mbettis
Old K's Don't HAVE to be Grungy...

They are so gorgeous when they are as clean as they came from the factory.

22" and 2414 grams. ...I may have taken a little weight off of her on my cymbal lathe.
...
Forum: Vintage Cymbals 02-06-2014, 04:12 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 811
Posted By mbettis
Re: Cymbal Maintenance ? (No, not cleaning)

There are many things that I prefer to be perfectly smooth.

The edge of a cymbal is one just one.

Later,
Matt
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