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MutantMozart 01-30-2020 05:01 PM

Slingerland Drums No City Label
 
I have an odd set of Slingerland drums that appear to be from the 80's or 90's. Trying to figure what I have. The hardware is clearly traditional Slingerland hardware, complete with jumbo size butterfly nuts on the floor tom. The shells are three ply Maple-Mahogany-Poplar or Maple-Mahogany-Something else. The inner ply is clearly a maple ply, the middle ply clearly mahogany, the outer ply I can't really tell. Looks too dark to be poplar, but not sure what else it would be.

The badges are your standard oval shaped black badges with serial numbers, but no city. Inside the drums there are some small round paper stickers with Chinese writing.

What confuses me is that I know the US made Slingerlands of this era used a three ply like what I have, but the stickers seem to indicate asian manufacture which would imply Luan construction.

Soundwise they are pretty thunderous, although not quite as much as my 70's era extra deep Slingerlands with power toms, but very similar character nonetheless and absolutely nothing like even the best of the luan drums of that era.

A very knowledgable Buddy of mine who owns a local drum shop said these were probably Spirit series of the early 90's, but I understood those to be luan shells not mmp. Can anybody shed some light here?

DrumBob 01-30-2020 05:18 PM

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Photos please? Most likely Spirit series made in China.

MutantMozart 01-30-2020 05:32 PM

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Thanks Bob, that's what my friend said, but that answer may be too simple, here is what confuses me. I know that the American made spirits were actually pretty good drums made with 3 ply Maple-Mahogany-Poplar construction, just like mine. But as I understand it, once production went to China they changed construction to all luan shells, which these most certainly are not.

Might there have some sort of interim period between when real Slingerland was having its last gasps and when Gibson bought them out during which they sent some shells to China or something?

slingerfan 01-30-2020 06:16 PM

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As Bob stated pictures are very useful. If you can't post pictures a more detailed description of the badge (e.g. black/silver, black/gold, USA, no USA) and some serial numbers may be helpful. During the HSS era there were some shells made overseas with wood sourced from North America.

DrumBob 01-30-2020 07:45 PM

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It's not hard to post pics here. If I can do it, you can, OP.

Upload photos on your computer

Click manage attachments before you post

Click on the photo you want to include and then upload it

You may have to reduce the size. 40% works for me, YMMV.

MutantMozart 01-31-2020 12:32 AM

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Sorry, I was at work when I posted, had to wait till I got home to take the pics. Anyway in case that serial is hard to read I think it's 940504.

MutantMozart 01-31-2020 10:08 AM

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Hmm, just found this on another forum. Most of it does not apply but this part
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maple-mahogany-maple
explains a lot, my shells are maple on the inside, mahogany in the middle, and the outer layer is quite difficult to discern but it's not poplar (too dark for that) and not mahogany (too light for that). It must be maple as well. It's hard to tell much when you can only see about 1/16th of an inch of it just below the bearing edge, but this does make perfect sense because these sound just like traditional Slingerlands and I think that would be hard to get from MMP.
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What you have is a HHS ERA; Artist Custom Series kit in Bright Blue. Itís a maple-mahogany-maple shell the maple is from the US. Also the covering, isolation, nuts & bolts also from US. But, built in Korea to keep cost down. The sound should almost be close to the traditional Slingerland sound. George King helped in designing of this kit and helps bring back Slingerland during the HHS ERA. These kits donít come up often because they were mainly jazz players that liked the kits and liked the sound at the time. I would say in good condition around $500-600.

slingerfan 01-31-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MutantMozart (Post 457267)
Sorry, I was at work when I posted, had to wait till I got home to take the pics. Anyway in case that serial is hard to read I think it's 940504.

Slingerlands with that badge are post-Niles imports. That badge and serials 940xxx were used in two different eras. First in the HSS era (early 90's) and then again during the Gibson era (early 2000's). More pictures/info needed to narrow it down further.

MutantMozart 01-31-2020 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by slingerfan (Post 457278)
Slingerlands with that badge are post-Niles imports. That badge and serials 940xxx were used in two different eras. First in the HSS era (early 90's) and then again during the Gibson era (early 2000's). More pictures/info needed to narrow it down further.

Yeah, I already know this part, original owner said he purchased in or about 1992. What I did not know is whether or not this was before Gibson took over. But the post I found on the other forum which I copied here upthread a bit seems to answer my questions. These are three ply Maple-Mahogany-Maple and the year (1992) seem to point to HHS era. So now, what exactly is the HHS era anyway? What does HHS mean anyway?

jda 01-31-2020 09:04 PM

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I dunno but they had a lot of Jazz sets (18"s) then and got to be pretty popular (butterfly wings) and all before they fizzled. I think MD reviewed the Jazz Kit.. Are your's 18" bass? If so keep them.. I'll look for that road test..nope didn't find


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