1960's Paiste 602

[LUDLOVER]

Is this cymbal worth the asking price. See link below. The cymbal is about the 16th item down. Check out the Pearl drums above it.

http://used.guitarcenter.com/usedgear/index.cfm?page=1&sort=listingId&dir=asc&location=449

[mlvibes]

I don't think so, unless it's really thin. I have a much cleaner 20" 602 that I would be glad to get $195 for: LINK (http://www.classicvintagedrums.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=68_79)

[Jaye]

GC Link loadng too slowly for me but a medium-weght 20" 602 is only worth about $150 (honestly a medium 602 ride isn't a great cymbal lMHO)- a thin one as mentioned above - is the sought after variety and they can get over $225 easily

[LUDLOVER]

I don't think so, unless it's really thin. I have a much cleaner 20" 602 that I would be glad to get $195 for: LINK (http://www.classicvintagedrums.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=68_79)

That looks like a nice ride.

Is it the vintage Giant Beat rides that bring a lot of money?

What are the differences between the 602 and Giant Beat rides. Let's say 24" for a size.

I am currently switching from Zildjian to Paiste just to experience the difference. I was (still own) using Zildjian Avedis 20" medium ride, 18" thin crash and an 18" medium crash. I bought a set of Paiste 2002's and really like the shorter sustain but I don't like the lack warmth or darkness (not sure if I'm explaining properly) that the Zildjians posses. I am returning the 2002's and am now on the hunt for Giant Beats because I think they will be between the two sounds I am looking for. I found one on CL so far. It is an 18" GB multi functional crash, reissue of course, for $125.00. I also plan on getting the 20" MF crash and the 24" ride. I don't think I could afford vintage ones unless I am mistaken about their value.

Any reply would help.

Thanks:
LUDLOVER

[Jaye]

No need to apologize, your observations are very astute.

warmth, darkness = B20 alloy....
crispness, brightness = B8 alloy....
So therein lies the difference.

Either alloy can produce a pingy, or washy, or crisp, or trashy cymbal...a cymbal with pronounced stick or a cymbal with pronounced wash...or a crash with quick decay or slow decay.

But it's that darkness/warmth factor that sets them apart.

I believe Giant beats are B20, like 602's are. I do NOT believe 602's were ever made in 24" rides, however...

[LUDLOVER]

No need to apologize, your observations are very astute.

warmth, darkness = B20 alloy....
crispness, brightness = B8 alloy....
So therein lies the difference.

Either alloy can produce a pingy, or washy, or crisp, or trashy cymbal...a cymbal with pronounced stick or a cymbal with pronounced wash...or a crash with quick decay or slow decay.

But it's that darkness/warmth factor that sets them apart.

I believe Giant beats are B20, like 602's are. I do NOT believe 602's were ever made in 24" rides, however...

Thanks Jaye. Based on the info you provided I think I am on the wright track. The 18" GB didn't go through. I was set to buy it and the guy just simply stopped communicating with me. Oh well the search continues. I posted a thread in the Wanted to Buy section about Giant Beats. If anyone reading this has one for sale please PM me.

[the_drum_dad]

I believe Giant beats are B20, like 602's are. I do NOT believe 602's were ever made in 24" rides, however...[/COLOR]

GB's are B8
F602 rides went up to 26"
I know someone who owns a 24"