Help I.d. Please

[OldSchool]

I was doing a little inventory of my excess hi-hat stands today and am attempting to identify the manufacturer of one in particular that's got the following marking engraved on the pedal: FDS CHICAGO ILL.

Can any of you experts out there help me out with this one?

THANKS in advance for your time and your assistance!

[checker758]

I don't know who manufactured it, but I'd guess "FDS" may be the late, lamented longtime Chicago institution Frank's Drum Shop.

Scott

I was doing a little inventory of my excess hi-hat stands today and am attempting to identify the manufacturer of one in particular that's got the following marking engraved on the pedal: FDS CHICAGO ILL.

Can any of you experts out there help me out with this one?

THANKS in advance for your time and your assistance!

[Jim]

http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?t=2899

Perhaps some clues in this old thread.

[kevins]

Is it stamped, or the letters raised?
Bad eyes, brother

[kevins]

When I googled it this thread came up........DOH

[OldSchool]

ALL: THANKS so much for your input! I do appreciate it.

kevins: The letters are raised.

[kevins]

ALL: THANKS so much for your input! I do appreciate it.

kevins: The letters are raised.
Would you think that points away from the Franks scenario?
I could see a drum shop labeling or stamping an item with an ID, but not a manufactorer of drum gear casting an item with a drum shop's initials.
Whaddaya think?

[OldSchool]

kevins: I tend to agree with you, thus my original inquiry.

[kevins]

Yepper....

[Ludwig-dude]

Quote:
Originally Posted by havard
O-Lugs, you are quite right. On the underside of the footboard there is a WAMCO mark. Perhaps the pedal was made by WAMCO for Franks's Drum Shop?
Did Walberg and Auge make these pedals for Slingerland as well or is it just the same design as the Slingerland Krupa #836?

In the early days, Walberg made the hardware for Gretsch, Ludwig & Ludwig, WFL and Slingerland. Camco made it for Rogers (pre-swivomatic era of course) and later Slingerland, as well as for Geo. H Way drums (later Camco themselves). Leedy was the only drum company to manufacture their own hardware. They did everything in house. Walberg was the biggest manufacturer of drum hardware at onetime, before the manufacturers started making it either in-house or farming their own designs out to someone.

I would agree its a Walberg stand made for Frank's Drum Shop. Frank's had that kind of clout (and large customer base) back then so I'm sure it was a possibility.

[510]

This is an interesting little thread!

I think a great case can be made for what Checker and Ludwig-D and others propose. Walberg seemed to have made and supplied the same pedal for many. With the quantity that Frank’s ordered (clout, heck there is a whole book written about Frank’s) on a regular basis, and back then, it could have been a special thing for Frank’s as well as a way to keep track of that models destination during production and packing (I understand Frank’s could be demanding on manufacturers). A good way not to get the orders for this same pedal for other companies mixed.

Kevins, it would be pretty easy for the manufacturer to do as you suggested instead of the retailer; stamp the mold and produce many with raised letters, as to not ship to Gretch, Camco and others.

[jonnistix]

The foundry proess for aluminum is simple. I learned it in high school. All one needs is a design made from any material, wood that is carved, or metal that is lathed and drilled, it is really easy to do. The master is packed in oil-sand and then removed and the molten metal is poured into the mold. (of course this is overly simplified) Within a very few moments it is over and the sand mold is broken with the part ready for finishing. Anybody can do this with only a minor bit of training. So yes, it would be very easy, and probably in those days was encouraged as a profit center. Anyone with the extra duckets would have been offered this option if they were willing to pay the premium. Remember, they let 14 year olds do this in schools all around this great nation.
If I had the money, I could have an entire line of hardware ready to ship in a few weeks with my own logo on it. I have a contact that makes all this stuff in China and he is bugging me to order. I just don't have it all set up for import and all the extras it would cost to launch the enterprise. And the end cost for a decent quality set of hardware would make you guys roll over knowing how much profit the big boys are getting (obscene). am I slamming profit?....not at all, but my goodness, give the world a break.