Please help me identify these Ludwig snares!!

[benjaminlee]

1)
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4341/ludw0059mu.jpg

2)
http://i8.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/66/06/6d_1.JPG
http://i10.ebayimg.com/01/i/07/65/09/be_1.JPG

thanks a bunch!!

[Pete Stoltman]

# 1 appears to be an Acrolite while #2 is a Supraphonic. Age is hard to nail down from what I can see but most likely 1970's or later.

[Bharrington]

Both are early 70's in the Acrolite and Supra models (pointed corners).