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kellyj
05-24-2009, 06:46 PM
I found this gorgeous 1940, 1941? NOB Ludwig & Ludwig oval badge "Standard" 6.5 X 14 snare in the local ads here. The finish is about 7.5/10. I have it dissassembled (sp.) and took the Imperial lugs apart to clean the inserts and re-grease them. I put the
"standard" strainer back on for the photo.
A couple of things to admire here, NOB hexagonally beaded shell intorduced four or five years earlier as the "Silver Anniversay Model". The bearing edges are beautiful as are the crimped snare beds. The strainer is immaculate as is the tone control and the butt plate. they may have been re-plated?
Any comments or historic help is appreciated.
I will have it fully re-assmebled soon and post pics.
kellyj
05-25-2009, 09:38 AM
More pics...tone control, lugs, waiting to go back home on the shell.
~k
kevins
05-25-2009, 11:38 AM
Wow, the nickel plating on that is superb! I have a 1940 WFL three-piece outfit with Zephyr lugs, and I thought they were in great shape, but the shine on that shell of yours is blinding!
Congrats, can't wait to see her completed!!
kellyj
05-25-2009, 03:45 PM
Yes Kevins. I was surprised at the state of the nickel.
A couple years ago, I restored 1936 L & L Silver Anniversary Snare of the same type, except it had the tapped Imperial lugs with no inserts (one was stripped)! That drum had been sitting in a closet for about 40 years, was covered in a film of dust, had the original "snappi-snares" and calf heads. It sounded great right out of the closet.
The nickel on the shell had oxidized and was not easy to restore. It looked fine but that nice original nickel sheen was just so so...
This current shell is much better in that regard.
~Kelly
neat...did you check the head fit with a modern head ????
drumbum3131
05-26-2009, 05:07 PM
What a snare. That thing is clean.
kellyj
05-26-2009, 05:42 PM
Hi Jaye, Drumbum, Yes, It's a fine example of the bygone era...
Modern heads fit no problem a la Remo Ambassador Coated.
I should have it all back together thursday some time and post the pics.
~Kelly
Kmarty
05-27-2009, 01:16 AM
Nice! They didn't build many of those, pretty rare. I'm always amazed how many prewar metal drums survived the metal recycling drives of WW II. Lots of non-essential items ended up as shell casings for the war effort.
kellyj
05-27-2009, 11:35 AM
A lot of Brass ended up in shell casings crying2-07
So it's nice to spot one of these and fix it up...
~Kelly
poppy79424
05-28-2009, 07:02 PM
It's Thursday, where's the pics? It already looks amazing, I bet it turned out fabulous!
My teardrops had been on a shelf for 20-30 years and this guy owed my brother money and gave him the sonors. He gave them to me 4-5 yrs ago and they sit in my closet untill I joined this forum about 3 months ago. They were amazing even before I totally restored them. Now im a friggin drum junkie! lol
Congratulations Kelly! Looking forward to see another priceless piece.
kellyj
05-29-2009, 02:45 PM
My dog Lucy approves!
Here's the pics of the finished Ludwig "Silver Anniversary" restoration. Born around 1939, found new life in 2009.Jump For Joy
There are a couple non-original screws in the butt plate and the top rim is a Premier die-cast 1972, 14" tom hoop (until I find an original). Apart from that she's an all original beauty and sings like bird.
The only other problem I encountered... one of the interior screws holding the lug would not hold due to some stripping in the lug tap. I removed one the washers and it then held firm.
Installed Ambassador hazy snare and an Evans "Genera Dry". The strainer is especially gorgeous on this one.
I just finished playing her for about half an hour and she's sweetExcited
Specs: 8 Imperial lugs, hexagonally beaded NOB 6.5 X 14 shell
~Kelly
kellyj
05-30-2009, 08:22 AM
Thanks Gar.
Not many of these come along and it was a joy to fix 'er upClapping Happy2
~Kelly
poppy79424
05-31-2009, 10:53 AM
Dang! That thing looks like new. The butt screws should be slotted eh?
I snagged a chrome luddy snare of of ebay a few weeks. Its a 90's model i believe. The strainer was bent and it had no bottom head or tension rods for the bottom rim. I fixed it yesterday. Im sure it aint worth much but it looks and sounds good now. Here's A ludwig snare 60 yrs later.
kellyj
05-31-2009, 01:02 PM
The butt plate screws should be slotted. I am going to try and source them out.
Nice work on the Black and White Luddy there Poppy!!
~Kelly
poppy79424
05-31-2009, 01:26 PM
Your going to serch for original screws for a 1941 Luddy snare? That sounds like "lookin' for a needle in a haystack" Get some new ones and soak em in whink for a day or 2. that will eat the zinc off of them. Then you can polish the heads with a dremel wire brush. That might make them look authentic enough. Most screws on luddy butts I have encountered are like a size 6-32.
Good luck on that one!
kellyj
06-01-2009, 08:19 AM
I didn't know wink was so powerful. Does the same as Coke?
~Kelly
leray1
06-01-2009, 08:26 AM
Wow, that is a great snare. Great job cleaning her up! Cool1
kellyj
06-02-2009, 04:09 PM
Thanks Leray. It's nice giving new life to a great 'ol drum!
~Kelly
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