I found Super Ludwig from 1923!

[DrumIdiot]

I think its in bad shape, I do not play drums or know about vintage drums, but I think it might have some value. I know ludwig is a popular brand, but I can't find anything on it. I have pictures if anyone wants to see-Leave your email here. I'm wondering what its worth as of now, and eventually looking to sell it.

I know its my first post, but I just googled "vintage drum forum" and you guys seemed like you are pretty knowledgable. I live in Oak Lawn, and I know Camco originated here. Just thought you'd like to know!

thanks for all the replies, if you're interested you can email me also at troybert5@gmail.com

[Agopsalott]

I'm no expert, but from your photo that drum looks great and very salvageable to me unless the shell is badly damaged.
Anyone else see something different?
Just curious...how do you know it's a 1923?

[O-Lugs]

Is that a wrap or is it "stipple gold"?

[DrumIdiot]

Is that a wrap or is it "stipple gold"?
uhh, what??

sorry, I'm terrible with drum talk.

it says its a 1923 on the throw.

[Mike Curotto]

Are you sure that it says 1923...? or is it Pat. Pend. 1924 instead?

Mike Curotto

[DrumIdiot]

Are you sure that it says 1923...? or is it Pat. Pend. 1924 instead?

Mike Curotto

yeah, thats what it says, I'm sorry.

[DrumIdiot]

Drum is sold!! I believe it was make or one of his friends. $200.00, I'm pretty happy with that!


Thanks for everyone's help. Thoughts?

[drummist]

whoever just bought this for $200 is way more happier than you.

[DrumIdiot]

whoever just bought this for $200 is way more happier than you.
Why? I haven't sold it yet, hes sending payment monday. Is he ripping me off?

[O-Lugs]

Yeah...I think it's worth a LOT more than $200. To the right collector, might be ten times that amount! I THINK it looks like a Ludwig finish called "Stipple gold" which was some kind of weird metallic paint that was supposed to resemble gold flake. Most examples of this stipple gold finish that I have seen are almost all worn off. But I can't really tell from that picture. Mike Curotto knows way more than I about this drum.

[Webmaster]

Can we see the interior of the drum and better pictures of the strainer and butt side. Condition is a huge factor and parts for the both of them are hard to find and expensive.

The extra hole for the heater and the condition of the badge is also important.

It also looks like some tape was used to hold the badge in place and it would be nice to see the inside.

The snare guards alone can sell for $120 each and rarely ever come up on Ebay. (you can buy new copies and they sell for at least $75 plus $8 for the clip and screw!)

I can't make heads or tales on the finish since the picture is so blury.

David
Webmaster

[vadrums]

It is a faded gold sparkle with black age spots called "freckles". The hardware is nickle over brass, not the "Stippled" or "Artgold" as suggested. There is a pink lavender one on eBay and goes off tomorrow. It is at $471 at the moment. It is a "Professional" model, not the Super as you have here. Value as is, and what the market has been in the last 6 months is between $300-$400. I see an added "heater" hole and maybe a taped on badge??

[Rich K.]

Condition is a lot in vintage drums...if someone offered you a couple hundred, and you were happy with that, I wouldn't say you're being ripped off. The extra holes, and bad finish condition really bring down the value.

[O-Lugs]

It is a faded gold sparkle with black age spots called "freckles". The hardware is nickle over brass, not the "Stippled" or "Artgold" as suggested. There is a pink lavender one on eBay and goes off tomorrow. It is at $471 at the moment. It is a "Professional" model, not the Super as you have here. Value as is, and what the market has been in the last 6 months is between $300-$400. I see an added "heater" hole and maybe a taped on badge??

It went for nearly $1000.00!!!!

[Mike Curotto]

Why? I haven't sold it yet, hes sending payment monday. Is he ripping me off?

The parts alone are worth 400.00-600.00.
If you made the deal then you should stick by it...you may try communicating honestly with the buyer re: your ignorance (not a slam) on the price of a drum like that...

Mike Curotto

[Rich K.]

The snare that went for $1000, was a rare finish (lavender) drum in real nice, original condition. A year or two ago, these were selling for two grand. There's a nice, brass super on ebay now, complete, and in nice, clean condition, with a BIN for $1000.