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Webmaster
08-18-2007, 10:04 AM
I see a lot of drums going for parts and that argument has been carried out, but to photograph what appears to be a beautiful snare drum
and just selling the strainer off of it.
Click Here (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Ludwig-P-83-Snare-Strainer_W0QQitemZ270155850594QQihZ017QQcategoryZ1 0173QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
I guess this could be a forum member, so sorry if it is, I was just trying to figure out the reasoning behind it.
Are drums just that worthless to the general population?
David
mlvibes
08-18-2007, 11:08 AM
I saw that too, and agree it's pretty weird. All I can think is that maybe it's a substitute, and they will be replacing it with a script logo original. Or perhaps they just threw it on a jazz festival in order to get those keywords in the listing.
Roscoe
09-10-2007, 10:48 AM
Boy Howdy...
Really late to the post ( sorry! ) but this and and
another pertaining to EBay got the blood running.
The market is levelling off, and a fellow collector and I were
just yakking the subject.
His take was that the "masses R asses" and bucket cases going for
parts were the new clearing house @ auction.
To prove the point, we looked @ what obviously was a kit being
sold piece by piece on the web.
I've never cared much for puzzles, and feel this trend is really
a disservice to the drum AND the player...
Soap Box
sabshga
09-10-2007, 11:46 AM
Sorry Roscoe, I don't understand. What do you mean? What's a bucket case?
Roscoe
09-10-2007, 02:06 PM
Apologies.
"Bucket Case" is in reference to drums that are not
all there, or that have to be pieced together.
Shell, no hoops or badge, 3 poor souls that together
make 1, etc.
A Dairyland slang...
LudwigVan66
09-10-2007, 02:16 PM
I was just lamenting to the wife last night, it kills me to see all of these parts on eBay, especially when you see that what were complete drums being parted out by the same owner, just because they know they can make a few more bucks this way. Sure, you could always try to win the bid on all of the parts seperately, but your chances of ending up with all of them a slim. I think it should be a crime unless the shell is totaly fried or something like that. :mad:
Mike Curotto
09-10-2007, 02:52 PM
I see a lot of drums going for parts and that argument has been carried out, but to photograph what appears to be a beautiful snare drum
and just selling the strainer off of it.
Click Here (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Ludwig-P-83-Snare-Strainer_W0QQitemZ270155850594QQihZ017QQcategoryZ1 0173QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
I guess this could be a forum member, so sorry if it is, I was just trying to figure out the reasoning behind it.
Are drums just that worthless to the general population?
David
The guy probably found the correct script strainer and is selling off the one in the photo...
Mike Curotto
Antipodes
09-10-2007, 03:08 PM
I'm kind of curious to know if anyone has actually followed the progress of someone parting out a drum.
I did this kind of half-heartedly on a Camco snare recently (the guy said he was missing bits and this was his reasoning for selling it in bits - fair enough).
I think I followed the progress of every part bar one - and, you know what, for all the trouble that went into photographing it, doing the sales copy, advertising all the bits and doing all the packing - I don't think he made much more than if he'd sold as a complete though damaged drum. The irony is that for every "highly-prized" part of a particular drum, the rest of it is usually a bit "ho hum" and probably balances out whatever score you make on the highly prized bit.
I'm sure there are exceptions otherwise people wouldn't be doing this often but I'll have to do this again ('cause clearly I don't have enough to do with my time) just to see if my theory holds. Maybe it's that much cited "buyers' market" kicking in.
Cheers,
David
mlvibes
09-10-2007, 04:52 PM
I recently sold a Rogers 8x12 on ebay with a cracked wrap. I felt it was worth about $90, so I sold it buy it now for $108 to cover ebay and paypal fees. When I added up the amounts of completed listings for lugs, rims, badge, heads, shell, muffler, tension rods, and swivo mount, it was about $160. But I don't think there is any way I could have sold the drum for that much. It was mainly the above mentioned extra work (and fees) that kept me from parting out the drum for an extra $50.
JohnG
09-10-2007, 05:50 PM
Here's another one breaking up a kit ,,,,,,,,,****es me off........
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsaselZ76194784QQsspagenameZADMEQ3aBQ3aWNAQ3aU SQ3a46
The Ploughman
09-10-2007, 08:13 PM
The more profitable it is to strip and sell, the more chop shop sellers will be on ebay.
I look at my drums like that My old guitar song by neil young. When I pass them on, hopefully someone feels the same.
Antipodes
09-11-2007, 01:50 AM
"Here's another one breaking up a kit ,,,,,,,,,****es me off........
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsaselZ76...NAQ3aU SQ3a46"
Well this was a profitable score - for the three separately sold 60s Slingerland drums he got - USD 282.
DR
JohnG
09-12-2007, 07:00 PM
"Here's another one breaking up a kit ,,,,,,,,,****es me off........
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsaselZ76...NAQ3aU SQ3a46"
Well this was a profitable score - for the three separately sold 60s Slingerland drums he got - USD 282.
DR
good.....what a shame
Antipodes
09-13-2007, 04:23 PM
And another one splitting up the kit - this time with an LA Camco.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZhugerockstar
Apart from anything else the drums have got so many holes in them (and in bizarre places as well) that they look like they've been on the wrong end of a shotgun.
D
sabshga
09-13-2007, 11:15 PM
That kit has real hole issues. And the reserves are way up there. He is providing a service for the guy that needs a single. For example, the 13 solves a problem for the guy that buys the kit in the Washington area. If there actually was a 10" tom produced by Camco, that would have been an interesting piece for me. That's my preferred first rack tom size, but now I'm a "vintage guy." 18" bass drum? Instant bop kit for a guy with a 22" or 24" bass drum configuration.
bubsurf
09-30-2007, 01:23 PM
Intrigued me about this post. I sell on eBay, and complete drums, unless I find them to be missing parts. Will sell them hoping that someone out there will take the time and make them right, or just have them to be proud of. I have a buyer that I have watched in the past that has bought a few completely original snare drums. The meaning of this post was a strainer this guy was selling, NOT THE DRUM, well, he did find a script model. Went into his feedback, and it was the script strainer the guy bought and parted out off of me...
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