Hi - Help IDing a 1971 Ludwig Snare

[LookerBob]

This seems like it should be easy, but I haven't found information by googling it, so I was hoping someone could tell me what this is.

Our drummer has had a Ludwig snare that he got with his (secondhand) Ludwig kit about 15 - 20 years ago. He hasn't been playing it for over 10 years, but recently decided to get it going again, and we were wondering what exactly it was.

Here's the info on it:

14", Chrome 10 lug Ludwig
super-sensitive throw off
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Model #410
SN: 820860
Has a manufacture date sticker of April 26, 1971

I saw some confusing information about what was a super-sensitive, what was a supraphonic, etc. I'm not sure how they are defined, etc. (We're clueless!)

Anyway... I can get a picture if needed. The thing sounds great.

[Webmaster]

This will answer the question for you and the biggest difference
is the strainer.

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/images/my_collection/literature/ludwig/ludwig_brochure1_th.jpg (http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/my_collection_ludwig_snare_brochure.html)
Click image to go to the page on the main web site

[LookerBob]

Hey, look at that - thanks so much!

So if I read that right... It's basically the same drum, the super-sensitive just having the different snare mechanism... is that the only difference?

Is the super-sensitive considered a 'special' type of supraphonic then? Is the sound very different between the two?

Are there any negatives associated with the super-sensitive that make the supraphonic a more sought after drum?

That brochure is pretty cool - what year is it from?

Thanks again!

[Webmaster]

Basically the same drum! The Super Sensitive has finer tuning of the snares. The butt side and strainer side both have adjustments. In the end really the Super Sensitive has more parts and more chances for a "finicky" tuning. (from what I have heard).

Other then that I'm guessing mid 60's on the brochure based on the strainer and the shells, earlier versions had brass shells and these are not that. I do not know the exact year of change form the brass shells.

David

[O-Lugs]

Basically, it's the same drum. The Super-Sensitive was less of a "workhorse" than was its cousin the Supra. The Super-Sensitive was probably more widely used as a symphonic drum and the Supra was more of a drum-kit snare drum -at least that's how I always viewed the difference. I don't think the 71 would have a brass shell. It's a well-known drum but is not as in demand as the Supra because of the more finicky and stick-out snare mechanism. I'm not sure if the snare beds were different or not. Both the Super Sensitive and the Supra 400 are G-R-E-A-T sounding snare drums!

[LookerBob]

Cool - Thanks again!