Pearl Tiger Eye Wrap

[Dule]

Here in Serbia in a local auction site,at this moment about 100$ with stands and cymbals.Some of the parts missing.Hard to see what kind of wood,but from one pic of bass drum looks lake lauan
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[Drumdreams]

OMG, I love that finish. Something about that colorExcited . Same "c" style lugs as my silvertones. Early 70's? Man I'd love to have those. Is it just me, or does that floor tom look like an 18?!

[Dule]

I am waiting from information from seller,he is not drumer,and he will measure it and send me info.But I think it is 24-13-14-18-14 snare
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[Drumdreams]

Interesting sizes. I had no idea they offered anything other than standard configurations back in the day. If so, those would be very cool rock sizes. If those are correct, the 18 would also make a cool bass drum conversion.

[Lingontega]

Friend of mine had a set like this. It's entry level stuff and I'm pretty sure the sizes are 22-12-13-16. The finish is cool, but the drums themselves are not that hot!

[Fayray]

I beg to differ Lingontega. I have a similar kit in the same sizes but with 20" BD and it sounds great. I have a number of kits but this one is my go to kit most of the time.

[Dule]

Fayray this is beauty!
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[Father-42]

Here in Serbia in a local auction site,at this moment about 100$ with stands and cymbals.

Nice set, goodlooking wrap and condition is not bad.
Dule, I am amazed of Serbian's auction prices :shock: Sometimes I enter into the one of Ukranian's drum sites and I see that all the prices start near from $200 - even for non-completed old soviet and ex-socialistic sets...

But most of modern Russian drummers interesting nothing in old drums - they using and discuss just a world today's brands.

I have a similar kit

Fayray, respect!

[Drumdreams]

I beg to differ Lingontega. I have a similar kit in the same sizes but with 20" BD and it sounds great. I have a number of kits but this one is my go to kit most of the time.

So here's a question. I have a set of Silvertones. Same lug style and I would guess around the same year. The Silvertones, of coarse, are Pearl made. So I am wondering if my kit and your kit are the same....ie: luan, basswood, whatever? They look like exactly the same drum, except for the wrap.

[jonnistix]

At this time during the early-mid 70s Pearl offered only 2-3 lugs for stencils. This is one of the higher end. Does you kit have a maple inner veneer? This is one of the tell-tale signs of a certain era of Pearl designs. Some of these are the Pearl "battleship" lugs. This is not a bottom line kit. Many of St. Louis Music Supply stencils from this era had these lugs, but only for a short period of time. I think this is the best era for them, only because they have the maple interiors in many of the bass and floor toms. A good time for Pearl and SLMS, and really for those that own these kits.

[Drumdreams]

Well, I took a quick look in the snare shell, and it looks like the oh so common vertical grain. I had no idea that a maple veneer was offered on these kits. Would be nice I suppose, from a collectors point, but I really like the sound on my kit. They mic up nice and sound really fat for a small kit.

[Fayray]

So here's a question. I have a set of Silvertones. Same lug style and I would guess around the same year. The Silvertones, of coarse, are Pearl made. So I am wondering if my kit and your kit are the same....ie: luan, basswood, whatever? They look like exactly the same drum, except for the wrap.

Sure looks the same Drumdreams. I have the same BD tom mount as yours too. I've actually reverted to using it instead of the snare stand set-up. Mine is plain old luan too but it's a great kit to play and sounds good live and recorded.

[OsakaBop]

The original kit starting this post in an awesome Orange Oyster pearl wrap is non other than an early 70's Pearl Thunderking- the lack of a bass drum cymbal mount and the double toms on the single to double post are all easy identifiers. I have a similar one - same lugs and rack mounts, everything but in black sparkle- great and loud sound. Mine have a grey interior paint which seems factory-
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/Screenshot2010-11-11at90441PM.png

[Drumdreams]

The original kit starting this post in an awesome Orange Oyster pearl wrap is non other than an early 70's Pearl Thunderking- the lack of a bass drum cymbal mount and the double toms on the single to double post are all easy identifiers. I have a similar one - same lugs and rack mounts, everything but in black sparkle- great and loud sound. Mine have a grey interior paint which seems factory-
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/Screenshot2010-11-11at90441PM.png

Osaka that catalog pic is great. It's funny because my kit came with the original cow bell and wood block shown in the picture, but they were mounted on a stand. I like the idea of mounting on the bass drum better. Kit pictured, as is, when I got it.
Dule.....any more info on the kit? Did you buy them?

[OsakaBop]

That's wonderful -you've even got the matching hihat stand and pedal- right on!
That's a very nice Pearl stencil you've got there. Here's mine- I have the tom mounted on a stand in this shot but I have the same 1 into 2 mount as the catalog. Mine is a 69
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/P1010016-3.jpg

[Dule]

Osaka:Can you explane diferencies betwen badges in catalog pic you post and fotos of that Tiger eye?On fotos looks to be latter badge or maybe were in the same time manufactured with diferent badges?
Drumers dream:3 more days,he measured 60cm(24") bass drum,but I am not shure it is ok,mavbe he measured side with the hoop and it is 22 plus hoop.Good news is that it comes with set of Dixie Switzerland cymbals
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[OsakaBop]

Mine and the catalog still have the late 60s lettering badge (it's a 69 and the catalog is 69) but the one we are talking about has the early and mid 70s badge. The Thunderkings had this badge up until like 77- here's a shot from the 75 catalog- in it you can see they switched to a different tom mount by then. I would place the orange oyster pearl kit at about 73- by that time 24" bass drums and such were getting popular
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/Screenshot2010-11-11at113702PM.png

[Drumdreams]

[QUOTE=OsakaBop;98329]That's wonderful -you've even got the matching hihat stand and pedal- right on!
That's a very nice Pearl stencil you've got there. Here's mine- I have the tom mounted on a stand in this shot but I have the same 1 into 2 mount as the catalog. Mine is a 69


Not to hi jack Dule's thread, but I am still wondering weather my kit, and yours are essentially the same kit, just different badges? Did Pearl just have an assembly line, and depending on the day, some kits were badged Pearl, and some got shipped out?
You have some fantastic kits Osaka. Yes Sir I wish they were as plentiful here in N.S..

[OsakaBop]

Yes, I think there is almost no difference between Pearl badged kits and stencils in the late 60s and early 70s. FYI and thanks for the compliment on the kits- they are well loved!

[Dule]

Drums gone for about 300$ on auction.Not too me unfortunaly.Could not find actual dimensios of drums.I will try to contact buyer
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[Drumdreams]

Too bad Dule. It looked like a nice kit. I'm sure there are more to be had though. :)

[jonnistix]

Osaka:Can you explane diferencies betwen badges in catalog pic you post and fotos of that Tiger eye?On fotos looks to be latter badge or maybe were in the same time manufactured with diferent badges?
Drumers dream:3 more days,he measured 60cm(24") bass drum,but I am not shure it is ok,mavbe he measured side with the hoop and it is 22 plus hoop.Good news is that it comes with set of Dixie Switzerland cymbals
They did make 24" bass drums, and even 18" floor toms in the early/mid 70s. I have found an Apollo kit in St Louis that had 13-14-15mt/16-18ft and a 24" bass, all Pearl shells and some of the Star hardware. This one kit I found was a transition kit from the time Star was exiting the stencil world and Pearl was assuming the contracts for the St. Louis Music Supply stencil lines.

[jonnistix]

[QUOTE=OsakaBop;98329]That's wonderful -you've even got the matching hihat stand and pedal- right on!
That's a very nice Pearl stencil you've got there. Here's mine- I have the tom mounted on a stand in this shot but I have the same 1 into 2 mount as the catalog. Mine is a 69


Not to hi jack Dule's thread, but I am still wondering weather my kit, and yours are essentially the same kit, just different badges? Did Pearl just have an assembly line, and depending on the day, some kits were badged Pearl, and some got shipped out?
You have some fantastic kits Osaka. Yes Sir I wish they were as plentiful here in N.S..
Yes, Pearl main and stencil lines were all built in the same line, and used identical parts and shells. I have tried time and time to explain how this works. Let's say you are a small business and you want to buy widgets with your name on them and they are the same as everyone else's, but you want your name on it. You go to the manufacturer, not the distributor, and you go and say "Mr Manufacturer, I want green widgets." He says, "Mr Buyer, that's great, but first, we need to make them yours. Here is a menu of parts and options, please place a check mark next to the parts you want and we will make them with your name printed right on top". You: "Mr Manufacturer, I want mine with 4 stilts and 8 liners with a 2 heads on each and my company logo right here". In the alotted amount of time, your new widget comes along in neat little boxes and say "Drumdreams Widgets Finest in the World"....make sense? I was in manufacturing and understand how it woks, so it is easy for me to explain.

[Drumdreams]

Ok, I get it Jonni. I have seen so many differences in options of actual "Pearl" sets, and I always thought that maybe the "Pearl", and stencils were made in different factories.

[Dule]

Hi,I find another Pearl set in white pearl,22-12-13-16,with lots of parts missing,double tom holder,all t-rods and claws from front and one or two t-rod and claw on batter side.Seller information is that the inside of the drum is gray.Found something similar as Thunder king set(as we were discussed on my thread on Pearl tiger eye wrap).It is mentioned in catalog that it is 9-ply shell construction.What it can be?Lauan or something diferent?
Thanks!

[Dule]

Forget to attach a picture of these Pearl set

[interloch8]

I have a tiger eye set that I use with a jazz sextet. It a bit brighter than the some of the photos I've seen. It's Pearl, and Whitehall (a private label of Pearl?) Most of the hardware is pearl, and pieces have come from many different places; took about three years or more to find these and repair and refurbish them. I also have a Whitehall tiger eye 20" bass drum...matching the pictured set. The 20" has been paired with a vintage Reuther tom which I've spray painted to more closely match the tiger eye, and a Pearl mirror finish snare and other hardware/cymbals. Over about 5 years, I've refurbished or rebuilt 7 kits; before that, repaired and refurbished 19 timpani put together as 3 sets of 4; set of 2; and one single.

[OsakaBop]

I don't want sound insulting or insult vintage Pearl drums- but as an owner of several of these late 60s/early 70s Pearl kits- 975$ is quite over-priced- especially without the matching snare. I cannot see any logo badges in your photos of the kit- unfortunately that lowers the value as well. An interior shot of the shell material would also be essential to make a sale to any savvy buyer. If they are luan shelled- then I think you could ask 300$USD tops (they look clean and solid) if they are dark brown President phenolic fiber-glass then you could ask 500$USD if they are luan with an inner ply of maple (this was done in the later models- 73-75 then you might ask up to 400$
At 975$ buyers could buy a vintage Ludwig or Slingerland drum set of a similar vintage if they shop carefully. Best of luck with it- it is a lovely wrap:2Cents: