Dream Cymbal Tasting in Cincinnati Oct. 1 & 2

[nailfoxx]

Greetings fellow drummers,

I hope this isn't considered abuse or misuse of the site, but I wanted to let everyone know that I am hosting a Dream Cymbal Tasting this coming weekend.
The event is Friday 4-9 and Saturday 10-5. I will have a Dream rep. here as well as Scott Pellegrom, who is an endorser of Dream. Scott will be doing little 10-20 minute one-on-one technique classes for anyone buying Dreams that day. He is one heck of a player!

Information:
11700 Princeton Pike
Cincinnati, OH 45246
513-671-3288
(Second floor of mall, near Sears)

If you are interested in coming, please let me know! It's always fun meeting the fellow vintage guys when possible. Feel free to call or email me: kschwallie@hotmail.com and I can give directions or anything else you may need!

Thanks! And, I hope you see you then,

Kevin

[kevins]

Far out !!

[Chappy50]

I would be all over that if I lived nearby. Dreams are totally cool.

[kellyj]

I use Dream Bliss cymbals every week. I have the 22" Bliss Ride, 19" Vintage Bliss ultra thin crash/ride, 18" Bliss crash/ride and the 16" Bliss crash.

My favourite is the 19" Vintage Bliss crash/ride. This lovely pie is about as thick as a sheet of bristle board, shimmers for minutes after a hit or wash and is darker than any Constantinople K. This cymbal is much more of a crash than a ride. The 22" Bliss has great stick definition and attack and suits the term "Ride" especially for jazz. The advertising literature for this Canadian Importer of fine hand-hammered Chinese cymbals states of the Vintage Bliss line, "Very Dark with a hint of Dragon's breath".
The "Contact" line by Dream are heavier pieces and suited to Rock.

All of Dream's line is made of B20 brass and hand hammered in every stage of manufacture. Still very much a "cottage industry" company with a gorgeous product.

Try these out...for about 1/3 the cost of K's you will not be dissappointed.

Cheers!
-kellyj

[mcjnic]

Any chance you could handpick a set for an overweight graying science geek? I can't make the showing, but I would love to have a small setup of 'em. I had a 17 until fairly recently. Nice cymbals. PM me if this is possible. Thanks.

[al9000]

I'd go if there was such an event in Southern Cal, like within 100 miles of Long Beach.

[nailfoxx]

Thanks for the kind words from everyone about Dream, I will say that of all the events and clinics I have done, Dream has outperformed them all! I never would have guessed the 'Cult following' that develops once someone buys their first Dream!

I received inventory last night, we are starting to see some of the very first pieces with their laser etching, very tasteful!

Kellyj is right about the 'cottage industry', and I think this is what makes it very unique! Computer controlled systems are fine, but give me hammer on metal any day of the week!!

McJnic- PM was sent, just let me know what your ears like!

If anyone else is interested, I am happy to match up some cymbals for anyone!

Thanks again!
Kevin

[nailfoxx]

Today's the day! Hope to see some vintage drum faces!

Or if anyone else would like me to ship anything, let me know. Rumor has it a 38" Feng Gong will be showing up. We have other sizes, but that would be sweet!

Anyway, happy drumming!

-Kevin

[statuscymbal]

Any chance you could handpick a set for an overweight graying science geek? I can't make the showing, but I would love to have a small setup of 'em. I had a 17 until fairly recently. Nice cymbals. PM me if this is possible. Thanks.

I can do that for you. I am going to handpick a set for myself

[mcjnic]

I sincerely appreciate the offer, but my man here has already spied me a sweet 19 that should fill the bill for my needs. He also has a 22 in mind if the 19 gets to my ears with a smile. Have I mentioned enough just how much I love this forum?

[mcjnic]

Ahhhhhhhhh. Man oh man. Thank you so much, Nailfoxx. Just got the 19 this eve. Schweeet cymbal. Exactly what I was looking for. I sincerely appreciate you doing for a forum dweeb like me. You did yourself proud. Muchos thanks.

[plexi69]

Boycott all Chinese goods whenever possible. China has had only one main agenda since the Communist take over, and that is the overtaking of our country, the U.S.A. If you won't boycott for patriotic reasons, then you should for humanitarian reasons. China is still one of the most oppressive regimes in the world.

[mcjnic]

Boycott all Chinese goods whenever possible. China has had only one main agenda since the Communist take over, and that is the overtaking of our country, the U.S.A. If you won't boycott for patriotic reasons, then you should for humanitarian reasons. China is still one of the most oppressive regimes in the world.

Ok. I'll beat the heck out of that Chinese product as if I was beating China itself. With each and every power crash, I'll be doing my part as a red blooded American. I'm a patriotic drummer! I love my country and my freedoms. Let's all buy these Dream cymbals and do our part to beat China into submission. Crash Bam Boom! Take THAT you Mao wannabes.

[nailfoxx]

Mcjnic, I am glad you like the cymbal! The 17 and 19 inch sizes are their best sounding crashes by far!

[plexi69]

mcjnic, you obviously don't or can't read newspapers. I will guess by the tenure of your reply that you have or probably will be losing your job due to China flooding the market with cheap factory goods.

[mcjnic]

mcjnic, you obviously don't or can't read newspapers. I will guess by the tenure of your reply that you have or probably will be losing your job due to China flooding the market with cheap factory goods.

Boycott all Chinese goods whenever possible. China has had only one main agenda since the Communist take over, and that is the overtaking of our country, the U.S.A. If you won't boycott for patriotic reasons, then you should for humanitarian reasons. China is still one of the most oppressive regimes in the world.

Actually, that was a polite way of saying back off and don't cross a freekin' line here. I take serious offense to you coming on here and telling people what their political, moral, and ethical stance will be. You do what you do and leave my life to my FATHER. HE alone is my moral compass. HE alone will set my political base. I don't need you or anyone else flapping the gums of guilt at me to try and take a stance against a people or system of government. You don't know me and you haven't earned that place of wise council. This is not the platform for this tripe and definitely is not a welcome read. Perhaps this is a bit clearer and more to your liking. Either way, **** off.

David, I tried to be polite. He just didn't get it. I'm on here to just say thanks to a forum member for being so cool and this trouble maker jumps in here and starts commanding the masses. Those are not suggestions in that post. What the heck? This is a vintage drum forum, right?

[kevins]

Boycott all Chinese goods whenever possible. China has had only one main agenda since the Communist take over, and that is the overtaking of our country, the U.S.A. If you won't boycott for patriotic reasons, then you should for humanitarian reasons. China is still one of the most oppressive regimes in the world.
A complete boycott of Chinese products would collapse the entire world's economy.
Not a good idea.
$.02 or yen, or whatever....:)

[plexi69]

mcjnic,
Man, you have issues!

[jonnistix]

This from the same guy that slammed me for for being a "doting father" and having pride in my very intelligent, Principal's Honor Roll son, and then went on to tell us he had every right to say whatever because of his gross misunderstanding of the First Amendment and the rules of a PRIVATELY owned forum...I think you will remember the history lesson mjic gave you on that subject as well?
You sir, are the one that seems to have the problem. Seems you only post for 2 reasons.
1) Looking for the drums and parts, which is perfectly acceptable for your type.
2) To begin controversy.
Please, go shop and leave the rest of us alone, and we promise we will leave you alone.

[plexi69]

Freedom of speech is just that, freedom of speech. If you have ever claimed to be a musician or artist of any sort then you have to stand up for freedom of speech. Whether or not not you agree with what is being said ( and yes that goes for having to read posts by over indulgent parents boasting about their spoiled children). This is a priviledge you will not enjoy in China.

[kevins]

Freedom of speech is just that, freedom of speech. If you have ever claimed to be a musician or artist of any sort then you have to stand up for freedom of speech. Whether or not not you agree with what is being said ( and yes that goes for having to read posts by over indulgent parents boasting about their spoiled children). This is a priviledge you will not enjoy in China.

I feel a Toilet coming on......

[vexorgtr]

Dream Cymbals are cool.. I'm still set on Istanbul Mehmet as my favorite.

In regards to the political battle... I think it's more the choice of words, than the general concept...

An appropriate response should be something like. Dream cymbals are made in China, and for political and economic reasons I can't support buying them. I would like to encourage everyone to think hard and research the reasons that led to my decision.

That's an appropriate response... although just a piece of fiction. I don't hate anyone, but I prefer to support US businesses and small cottage businesses. As much as I love my Istanbul's, if I thought that the money from them was leading to more terrorism in the world, I would halt buying them, and cite my reasons to anyone who may have considered a purchase.

My bet is that the people at Dream are working hard to make a quality product and take care of their families.. rather than take over the world economically.

[vintagemore2000]

I thought this was a Dream Cymbal thread, the Real and very sad fact is almost all metal parts used on current musical Instruments is ROC. China! That's why you want vintage! old drums, cymbals, hardware, you get the jest, hey this place is called The Vintage Drum Forum, so come on fellas lets just talk about drums and related topics> Okie Dokie!Group Hug

[mcjnic]

Freedom of speech is just that, freedom of speech. If you have ever claimed to be a musician or artist of any sort then you have to stand up for freedom of speech. Whether or not not you agree with what is being said ( and yes that goes for having to read posts by over indulgent parents boasting about their spoiled children). This is a priviledge you will not enjoy in China.

I picked up my gun and earned my rights and freedoms. I served for seven long years. My wife retired after proudly serving for twenty-one years and my son and his wife are both serving. You ever get in my face again and question American Freedoms bought and paid for, I'll take it very personal. Again, back off. This is a freekin' vintage drum forum. You got a problem with some other country, then I suggest you pack up your old kit bag and smile your backside across the ocean and settle your score. Your words wreek of cowardice and ignorance. Put up or shut up. Either way, take this crap somewhere else.

[SkyDog75]

Boycott all Chinese goods whenever possible. China has had only one main agenda since the Communist take over, and that is the overtaking of our country, the U.S.A. If you won't boycott for patriotic reasons, then you should for humanitarian reasons. China is still one of the most oppressive regimes in the world.

I don't think anyone in China was thinking about overtaking the U.S. when the Communist Ƥarty came to power in 1949. They would've been much more concerned with domestic matters like the Kuomintang.

Well-intentioned but possibly misguided patriotism aside, I personally prefer to buy goods produced in countries that have fair labor policies and laws that require employers to pay their workers a fair minimum or living wage. That way, if they earn my dollar, they did so on fair competitive grounds with their counterparts in America and elsewhere.

As for "freedom of speech", here's the actual text of the First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
As it pertains to an Internet forum, the First Amendment says the U.S. government has no authority to prevent you from speaking your mind here, but (thankfully) there's no law telling the forum operators they have to tolerate it.

But back to the original topic, which we were so rudely guided away from...
Wish I could've come! Hopefully someone will take your idea and run with it, and host something that's a little closer than a 9-hour drive for me!

[vexorgtr]

You are correct sir........ This forum doesn't guarantee free speech.... We are in a benevolent dictatorship.... posting with the discression of the moderators.

[plexi69]

"I picked up my gun and earned my rights and freedoms."

I always wondered who to thank for beating back the Hun.

"Put up or shut up."

Your threats ring hollow. Is that the best argument you can use to express your "intellectual" point of view?

Seriously, both you and Jonnicakes should start a band together.

[SlappyDrum]

i'm in hawaii. i'll make a trip just to have the satisfaction of slapping the crap out of you plexi. you are a disgrace to drummers and this forum. go away or list your address so we can shut you up. if you don't you are a girl hiding behind your keyboard.

[plexi69]

Slappy,
Are you always this emotional? Speaking of being girl like! I simply stated my thoughts on helping to support the Chinese government, and now all of the forums "great minds" are acting like the Chinese government. This is supposed to be an adult forum, and I am quite surprised at the juvenile responses I have received from some members. Whether anyone agrees with my thoughts is irrelevant. What matters to me is that I can express myself without having to regress to the first grade.
Your internet posturing says more about you then you realize.

[mcjnic]

"I picked up my gun and earned my rights and freedoms."

I always wondered who to thank for beating the Hun.

"Put up or shut up."

Your threats ring hollow. Is that the best argument you can use to express your "intellectual" point of view?

Seriously, both you and Jonnicakes should start a band together.


Please, have a bit of mercy. I know when I've been bettered. You are so superior to all of us on this forum. I'm ... I'm ... well ... I will admit it. I'm ashamed of myself to even attempt at locking horns with you. You, a man of many words and talents. I have .. no, WE have learned a lesson here. We are humbled. You cast a large shadow and have made some very good points. I will never knowingly purchase anything from China again. In fact, I'll stop eating Chinese food, just to be on the safe side. You are to be admired for your willingness to stand up and speak your mind. Your freedoms are vibrant and strong. You wear them well. Go in peace, man among men. Let this be the end. You have beaten us all. Be proud and victorious. GOD Bless America and GOD Bless you. flowers2

[SlappyDrum]

Slappy,
Are you always this emotional? Speaking of being girl like! I simply stated my thoughts on helping to support the Chinese government, and now all of the forums "great minds" are acting like the Chinese government. This is supposed to be an adult forum, and I am quite surprised at the juvenile responses I have received from some members. Whether anyone agrees with my thoughts is irrelevant. What matters to me is that I can express myself without having to regress to the first grade.
Your internet posturing says more about you then you realize.

freedom of speech is for me too right? so i'm saying whatever i want and i want to tell you that your a piece of crap. freedom of speech. is that what you were saying? i can say whatever i want because i have freedom of speech. you are a ****. you are a creep. you need to have the crap beat out of you. freedom of speech.

[nailfoxx]

I'm glad some people have been able to enjoy playing Dream Cymbals. I sincerely thank everyone around who served our country in the military. My brother in law was in Iraq last year, I am happy to have him back here safe and sound. Veterans who come in my store, ALWAYS recieve a discount on the things they purchase.

Regarding China, I invite everyone to take a breather. A 100 level economics class will discuss how each country in the world will develop in roughly the same way. Each will have an Industrial Revolution of sorts. China is in theirs now. So unless Americans are going to foot the bill to raise Chinese wages, raise regulations on pollution, and everything else we can say about China's problems...we will just have to wait it all out. Keep in mind, we were quite a dirty place to be 100 years ago, not to mention having indentured servants and slavery in the south to help boost our economy for a long time.

My 2nd point about China, it isn't like the money my new Dream friend spent on the cymbal was placed in an envelope and mailed to China. I am an American (legal, tax paying, and consumer). Also, the company I work for is American (112 years in business). The cymbal was stocked in St. Louis, I believe, and shipped via UPS. The money involved since arriving to the US surpasses anything given to a Chinese worker by an amazing margin.

Anyway, back to Vintage Drums! If anyone else is interested in hearing some Dreams, just let me know. If I could find an easy way to record some of the rides and whatnot that I like, I would. Any suggestions, I am all ears!!!

-Kevin

[jonnistix]

Freedom of speech is just that, freedom of speech. If you have ever claimed to be a musician or artist of any sort then you have to stand up for freedom of speech. Whether or not not you agree with what is being said ( and yes that goes for having to read posts by over indulgent parents boasting about their spoiled children). This is a priviledge you will not enjoy in China.
My child is not "spoiled". He knows more about consideration of others, has a work ethic not found in many adults and loves his family and friends. Leave my child out of your rants. You can **** with me, leave my family alone, you dick. I can only imagine the wonderfully loving childhood you had. Did your mommy not take good care of you? Did you have to beg for your goodies?
Look pal, you don't HAVE to read anything on this forum, you CHOOSE to. If you don't want to read of others' wonders, then go back to trolling for ugly drums. You have been one of those that come here and do NOTHNG constructive for the drumming community. You are vile and destructive and are not welcome to post anywhere you see my name. You have clearly launched an unprovoked attack on us, we have done nothing to you.
You are the type that thrives on controversy, and have no life outside of making others' lives' less enjoyable.
You are just another low-life troll.
And once again, Freedom of Speech has nothing to do with this PRIVATELY owned forum. You agreed to the terms when you ssigned up, now live up to them.

[vexorgtr]

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Woosh.... let's see half these posts get flushed.

[jonnistix]

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Woosh.... let's see half these posts get flushed.
I agree, however this guy has attacked me and Mr M before and we just won't have anymore of it. He is a troll, granted, but he has personally attacked my family, and I won't take that sh!t from anyone.

[mcjnic]

I paired the new 19 you sent me with my 20 Meinl Byzance Jazz Thin Ride. I've also popped in a pair of very thin 14 hats (muts). Wow. I've searched for a sweet 18 or 19 that would work with this ride and just couldn't find one. I've gone through quite a few cymbals in the search. This one hit the mark perfectly. Thanks again for it. Unbelievably sweet match. It has a nice woody stick, excellent bell, great crash and sustain, and is very very warm. I'm loving it. You did a great job hand picking this one out for me. Jump For Joy

[wayne]

Hey,lets leave this sort of "one sided" thinking to the one forum [drumsmith] that welcomes this sort of thing,as long as you take sides with the guy who pays the bills.

[EricP]

Walking

hey Nailfox, can you check with your Dream rep. and ask him why
there isn't a Portland, OR dealer for these awesome cymbals?

There is a cymbal tasting next weekend coming to Tacoma
and Richland WA, which are somewhat close to me, but still . . .

Eric

electricit

[nailfoxx]

Hey Mjnic,
Sounds pretty great! I love a good set of thin hi hats. That's interesting to hear, my friend has the same ride and had trouble finding something to match with it. He has the 22" model, good sounding cymbals!

EricP,
That stinks about not having a store nearby. They will get there eventually. Isn't there a 5-Star in Washington, maybe Ron Dunnett's place?? Not that it is close to you, but if I am right on all of this, I am pretty sure he imported the biggest gong made by Dream which is like 72"!! Not sure who is doing the tasting, but if it's this store...you should go hit the gong haha!

-Kevin

[jonnistix]

EricP,
Not sure who is doing the tasting, but if it's this store...you should go hit the gong haha!
-Kevin
flowerShouldn't that be gang a bong...er bang a gong?Excited