View Full Version : Estimated value of Rogers wood snare drum.
kevprescott
08-13-2010, 02:19 PM
Can anybody give me any information please on this rogers wood snare drum.the rim of the shell is 5ply but lowers in on main part of drum.i cannot find a serial number on the drum.the lugs underneath are round with a slit through the top..any information of model/date/value will be highly apprieciated.. thank you..
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wayne
08-13-2010, 03:49 PM
Does,nt look like a Rogers shell to me at all.
AZBill
08-13-2010, 04:08 PM
Man, I gotta' tell you, those are about the blurriest pics I've seen on here. Maybe some clarity will aid in an appraisal. I've never seen internal washers that run the length of the lugs. Interesting. What's with the vertical blocks on the interior? Will be interesting to see what/who can call this one. I like the carpet, though - that's in focus. Good luck.
Musicaldeath
08-13-2010, 04:33 PM
That's a pretty cool internal muffler. This almost looks like a random shell with Rogers hardware to me
takauya
08-13-2010, 04:57 PM
$150 - $200 for the hardwares.
just a guess
SkyDog75
08-13-2010, 05:17 PM
I've never seen internal washers that run the length of the lugs. Interesting.
I have, on 1960s COB Slingerland snares.
...as shown in the attached image I stole from an eBay auction.
swalabr
08-13-2010, 05:24 PM
Hi - could be an English Rogers - bit like the Ajax shells they used over here, but they were not varnished, but have only seen in toms and a bass, not a snare. Not too keen on the carpet actually - sell that and buy a dyna. Good luck! John
kevins
08-13-2010, 05:53 PM
Man, I gotta' tell you, those are about the blurriest pics I've seen on here. Maybe some clarity will aid in an appraisal. I've never seen internal washers that run the length of the lugs. Interesting. What's with the vertical blocks on the interior? Will be interesting to see what/who can call this one. I like the carpet, though - that's in focus. Good luck.
Carpet doesn't count.... it's fuzzy already !!........Laughing H
Man, I crack myself up ....... I gotta take this show on the road someday !!
Hey man, some heckler just said " Keep it on the road, way outta town".
What's that supposed to mean ??..........DOH
jonnistix
08-13-2010, 06:18 PM
My thought is this is an English Rogers. Look carefully, guys.
kevprescott
08-13-2010, 06:19 PM
thanks for the advice guys..i wondered why it didnt have a rogers badge on it..i will be selling it for around $200 if anyone intrested just for the hardware..any further information would be great..thanks..
AZBill
08-13-2010, 06:21 PM
Hey man, some heckler just said " Keep it on the road, way outta town".
What's that supposed to mean ??..........DOH
Whoa, whoa, whoa!, Mr. Kevins!! You're not surfing the net whilst driving, are you? NOT COOL!!! Be safe.....hiccup! Shoot, spilled some. (For the record, I do not condone drinking and driving and feel terrible if this stupid joke has offended anyone.)
Also, Mr. Skydog, thank you for the enlightenment. I just don't recall seeing that setup, before. Wonder what the idea behind it was. To maintain a minimum, maximum weight? I suppose I can see it on a thin-ply wood shell, but on brass? I learn something new every day. Thanks.
kevins
08-13-2010, 06:33 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa!, Mr. Kevins!! You're not surfing the net whilst driving, are you? NOT COOL!!! Be safe.....hiccup! Shoot, spilled some. (For the record, I do not condone drinking and driving and feel terrible if this stupid joke has offended anyone.)
Also, Mr. Skydog, thank you for the enlightenment. I just don't recall seeing that setup, before. Wonder what the idea behind it was. To maintain a minimum, maximum weight? I suppose I can see it on a thin-ply wood shell, but on brass? I learn something new every day. Thanks.
Laughing HLaughing H
When I used to drink and drive, the "tender bits" would wind up drunk before the rest of me ..... bumpy roads up in WNCarolina.....
Yep, I have a Slingy like Skydog's also.... freaked out when I saw it... thought something was wrong !!
I've never seen that scenario on a wood snare before though... not that I've seen that much, or that it is wrong, just have never seen it.
AZBill
08-13-2010, 07:02 PM
^^^^^
"Tender bits". Ha, haaaaaaa! What do you mean? (Good one) Maybe those bits could use an oblong washer set-up, on them.
kevins
08-13-2010, 07:15 PM
^^^^^
"Tender bits". Ha, haaaaaaa! What do you mean? (Good one) Maybe those bits could use an oblong washer set-up, on them.
I had a girlfriend once with an oblong washer set-up.
That girl sure could "wash some clothes"......;);)
AZBill
08-13-2010, 07:25 PM
I cry. I will call you "Slayer", because you KILL me!!
Thanks you.
SkyDog75
08-13-2010, 10:59 PM
I just don't recall seeing that setup, before. Wonder what the idea behind it was. To maintain a minimum, maximum weight? I suppose I can see it on a thin-ply wood shell, but on brass?
Those spacers serve the same purposes as the cup washers you see on other thin-shelled metal drums. Since the tabs on lugs actually extend a little bit beyond the inside of the shell, a spacer/shim/washer provides something for the screw head to cinch down on so it can firmly anchor the lug. It also spreads the stress from the lug screws over a larger area to prevent the shell from bending.
Yep, I have a Slingy like Skydog's also...
That's not my drum -- it's just a picture from a random eBay auction.
I do have a similar COB Slingy -- just got it a few days ago and played it for the first time today, actually -- but mine is a 1970s drum with cup washers.
kevprescott
08-14-2010, 04:15 AM
i will put clear pictures on today guys...thanks for your help..
kevprescott
08-14-2010, 06:36 AM
do we think this is an english rogers snare from early 70's..any information please...
Pounder
08-15-2010, 01:26 AM
Not sure I agree, but my Rogers book is on loan, so I'll have to look at it when I get it back and chime in. From the pictures, the muffler looks strange. The top hoop looks like a higher hoop like a mid-60s era one, but then is that c clips on the tension nuts? Where's the logo?
kevprescott
08-15-2010, 09:46 AM
the rogers badge is on the snare catch itself..i will put clearer pictures up soon...any information is welcomed..thank you
kevins
08-15-2010, 01:43 PM
Just waiting for some decent pictures.... information could be forthcoming then.
SlappyDrum
08-15-2010, 05:38 PM
I'm watching this one. What the heck???
Nutbox
08-20-2010, 05:44 PM
That looks English Rogers, but it has been messed with. You have beavertail lugs and tall hoops - classic ER combination 1965 onward. Did they use those lug plates in the US? They did for ER. That isn't an original wrap. ER was never available in black. Someone has added a non Ajax damper - looks Premier????. I think I can see two holes in the shell which would take the ER logo (2mm diameter and 45mm apart). No paint inside. The grain should run from edge to edge rather than around the drum like US Rogers. Value £30 - £60 cos of the messing. A good one would be £100 - £110. Would be interested to know what that piece of wood is doing inside the shell.
This is an earlier ER. Compare the positioning of the strainer, damper, grommet hole (covered by piece of wood???). Different from the US ones. Just off to the left you can see a store plate, and in that panel would have been the logo (opposite the grommet hole) but it has broken off like so many have.
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