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ARCHxANGEL
12-03-2006, 10:15 PM
Recently from a friend I acquired a 60's Blue Sparkle bass drum named Amati thats from Czechoslovakia.I wasn't even aware drums were made in Czechoslovakia.Does anyone have any info on these? I am part Czech so for me its really cool.I have atleast dated the drum to July 1964 as there is writing with pencil on the inside.There is also a name of an owner who purchased the drum in 1974.So its also cool to see where it changed hands atleast once ( lord knows where its been since 74' lol ) If anyone can share some light its greatly appreciated and next to both names it says Local #4...could that be a musicians union in Ohio as the 74' address and name is from Ohio?? Thanks again. ( and its nice to have friends who grab drums off the side of the road for you )
jazzbo
12-03-2006, 10:49 PM
http://www.amati.cz/english/production/production.htm
jazzbo
12-03-2006, 10:52 PM
Recently from a friend I acquired a 60's Blue Sparkle bass drum named Amati thats from Czechoslovakia.I wasn't even aware drums were made in Czechoslovakia.Does anyone have any info on these? I am part Czech so for me its really cool.I have atleast dated the drum to July 1964 as there is writing with pencil on the inside.There is also a name of an owner who purchased the drum in 1974.So its also cool to see where it changed hands atleast once ( lord knows where its been since 74' lol ) If anyone can share some light its greatly appreciated and next to both names it says Local #4...could that be a musicians union in Ohio as the 74' address and name is from Ohio?? Thanks again. ( and its nice to have friends who grab drums off the side of the road for you )
I see you live in Monroe , CT . I'm originally from Willimantic CT , and was is in Monroe once when my high school did an exchange concert with the high school there . Many moons ago ...
ARCHxANGEL
12-04-2006, 01:02 AM
First off thanks for the link.Apparently they made drums up until 1990.But continue to make cymbals,drum accerosies,as well as other musical instruments.Very cool I'm definatly going to have to shoot them a message.And no ( pardon my french ) crap,lol. Small freaking world.On another drum forum a guy has family right down the road from me.Very small world in which we live.
Gilnar
04-17-2009, 04:35 PM
Hello!
It's like this with production of drums in Czechoslovakia: There was a commonwealth of factories and craftsmen, who were making brass and wood instruments (saxophones, clarinets, etc.), called Amati.
After communists' putsch in 1948, industry was organized centrally and I think they just ordered Amati to make drums and cymbals. Nowdays, you can buy tons of Amati drums from different series and in different states. Some are just trash, others are well cared for. Generally, Amati drums were not anything special, but they're still better and strudier than, for example, Stagg, so many of starting drummers use them as their first set (in fact, almost every czech drummer started on Amati). Amati cymbals are heavy, quite thick, nothing special, but I have Amati ride and it's quite cool, as far as I can say.
Their production was halted sometime in early 90s. After them, Magic Brass cymbals came, but they were no good. Amati drums can play quite well, if you put good drumheads on them, but I think that appeals to better series, because lots of Amati drums are just BAD made.
If you visist Amati's website, there's nothing about the drums... I think they're ashamed :-)
Hello!
I'm from Serbia,and until 1990,only drums you could buy in shops were Amati and Tacton from East Germany.I agree that Magic cimbals are poor sound cymbals,old Amati rides and hi hats(dimensions were something beetween 14" and 15",ha!)sounded prety good for that money.Crashes were poor.It was not so bad compere to some of today products coming from china and even got a brand name stamped on!
Amati used birch for drums(not common on today entry level set),but had problem with wooden snares,because(sorry for my english,i dont know to explane it properly),snare could not lay properly on bottom head,so you take some sand paper and take of a 1mm of wood on the 2 places when snare wholes on the bottom hoops are,and it worked ok.Belive it or not,with proper heads it worked better than wooden snares of today's sets you can find for 400-500$(I mean price for entire set)
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Gilnar
04-18-2009, 08:49 AM
Today, I bought 80s' Amati drum set for school rehearsal room, and I am thrilled. Bodies (?) of drums don't have very well cut edges, but heads are held by sufficient number of screws (10 on bass drum and on snare, 6 on the rest), they sound very good even without bottom heads, HH is a little bit too thick, but has nice, crispy sound and hardware is (in some aspects) better than today's cheap hardware like Stagg. Snare is poor, but maybe it's because of its head, wich is badly beaten, and because of what Dule here said.
In fact, I'm now considering buying well-preserved Amati set instead of my Stagg.
This is an awesome thread !
Gilnar, can you post some pictures of the drum set ?
there was also a member here, I think, who was from Hungary and he posted some Hungarian kits. Wonderful, I love seeing manufacturers from other places !
Amati drums, that is a new one to me....you see cymbals on eBay now and again. They actually made very respectable saxophones and woodwinds, brass I think, too. Some of their older saxes are highly sought-after.
Gilnar
04-19-2009, 03:41 AM
Yes, Amati wind instruments are still sold and as far as I know, they're quite good.
This is what I bought: http://www.sferabubeniku.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=7960
Some other pics of other sets:
http://medak7.rajce.idnes.cz/Documents/
http://medak7.rajce.idnes.cz/Documents_2/
I wanted to buy these: http://hudba.bazac.cz/z/10268/ , but I was too slow :-(
VERY COOL...do you know what kind of wood they are ?
Gilnar
04-20-2009, 01:13 AM
Nothing of big quality. I think material differs by series, but the drums I bought are made of plywood of oak and something.
Gilnar
04-21-2009, 11:24 AM
And this...
http://www.drumcenter.cz/eshop/novinka-595.html
I call THAT some Czechoslovakian vintage beauty!
Nice rehab of that kit.
Actually, do not undercut those shells...if THOSE are Amati shells, they look like some good wood...maybe birch or maple.... not cheap stuff....
I do wish that the renovator DIDN'T paint the interior of the shells, though...would have been much nicer to have used tung oil over the wood if he wanted a nice dense surface....it would have looked more vintage, too.....oh, well...
I found on another place,that Amati drums were made from birch!And in the earlier years lugs were copy of older Premier or John Grey(also british brand)lugs.
Look what I found.Pretty nice looking snare?
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Gilnar
04-22-2009, 10:06 AM
Dule: That looks freakin' sweet!
Jaye: He says he painted it because of better resonation. Of course, that was more renovation than reconstruction.
About the wood... I don't know what you've heard but the set I have is made of oak. Older ones MAY be better, because older socialistic products were better than the ones from 70s and 80s, but I wouldn't be so sure.
And if you want some Amati to feel them yourself, you can get them for, like, 290 dollars, or less, even with cymbals, if you're lucky. I bought those for school for 235 bucks.
Gilnar:Forgot to tell interesting thing.Yugoslavian army,soldiers clubs in army posts all over the country had Amati drums.In green,blue and orange colours.But interestihg,i never see a 18" bas drum from Amati.I see your frend restaurate 18"bas drum.What is the price for that in Czech republik for this bas drum,in any condition?
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Gilnar
04-23-2009, 10:37 AM
Probably not too high, but they're hard to get...
I'll look at some auctions, but can't promise anything.
I dunno...I don't live there...but an 18" bass drum anyhwere is valuable...especially if it is a birch shell.
Amati, I have to say....aside from their cymbals, they made good quality stuff. I know their saxes are very good quality, at least up until the '80's or so.
I like that snare drum, too. Spiffy Walking
Gilnar.This piccolo also look fantastic.I would like to have something like that
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patrick
04-30-2009, 11:36 AM
There are some Amati pics here:
http://www.drummuseum.hu/index_a.php
Patrick
Gilnar
05-11-2009, 04:33 PM
http://www.aukro.cz/item633646621_bici_amati.html
These look really interesting...
For 275 dollars, with double pedal and reserve drumheads...
I agree...probably low because it's a "jellybean" kit (colors don't match, probably not factory matched, eh ? ;))....but, with the cymbals (the left one looks like an old Paiste) and is there an extra snare, too ? Yes, it's probably a nice deal. One could always rewrap the rack tom to Red Glitter...
Gilnar
05-19-2009, 02:37 PM
Gilnar.This piccolo also look fantastic.I would like to have something like that
You can.
http://www.aukro.cz/item640227990_prodam_buben_amati.html
It's for about 20 dollars, or 14 euro.
Hey Gilnar..would you be willling to help buy me an Amati snare over there, then ship to me ? Do you do Paypal ? I would of course pay you a fee or your time (on top of the cost of drum and shipping).
I would really like to have one, and I ain't gonna find one HERE for sure...
Ha.ha you like it too Jaye!It is beautiful little thing isn't it?no metter the sound!
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I found this only one picture of this Amati,and picture is not showing much.But I will try to find better one
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Gilnar
05-20-2009, 07:56 AM
OK, so there is currently one piccolo aviable. Starting price 20 bucks/14 euro
Then, there is one SET of these jazz-like Amati w/o floor tom, with cymbals and with piccolo http://www.aukro.cz/item637868518_bici_souprava_amati.html
Starting price 150 dollars/ 100 euro.
I doubt anyone will bid on either of these items, so we can get them for this price. You just have to decide who gets what :-)
But the shipping...
Sending that piccolo to Serbia via DHL (http://www.dhl.com/splash.html) would cost 170 euro. Almost the same price for USA. Sending whole drumset would probably cost much more.
That's $220 in shipping to USA ? Yipes Mind Blowi....is that the only way to ship it ?
I am out if I am looking at those kind of shipping charges
Gilnar
05-20-2009, 01:26 PM
I got good news!
That enormous price was for express shipping.
If I send it as a normal package, it costs 22 dollars for USA and 22 euro for Serbia. You get it in 6 weeks.
I think that is much more affordable.
Gilnar
05-20-2009, 01:32 PM
Oh, and by the way...
http://hudba.bazos.cz/inzerat/3518522/AMATI.php
http://hudba.bazos.cz/inzerat/3488631/Cinely-Hi-Hat-Amati-15%E2%80%9C.php
To Gilnar. I'm in for picolo snare!Just to find the way to send you money!
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Ha,ha 22 euros from Czech Republic to Serbia nad onlu 22$(16 euro) too USA,about 20 time longer distance?Intersting,I'm jast kidding Gilnar,did you told then that Serbia is in Europe?Ha,ha
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I had an Amati kit a few years ago. I never thought these drums would get so much attention :P Anyway, I opened a thread especially for them and posted a scan of an old Amati calatog I have around here, chech it out http://www.vintagedrumforum.com/showthread.php?p=31837#post31837
Gilnar, e-mail sent.
Dule got to the snare first...so he should have first opportunity to buy...;)
Gilnar
05-21-2009, 12:25 PM
I was wrong. Two people are currently bidding at that piccolo. Right now, it's at 17 euro, but might grow higher.
How much would you be willing to bid, Dule?
I can't find way to send you money from Serbia,and also with shipping costs and value of the snare,I give it up,Jaye you can try to buy it.Gilnar,thank you
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Gilnar
05-23-2009, 04:35 PM
Price is now 26 dollars (plus 6 dollars as a home shipping cost).
Jaye, do you want to try to buy it? I'll be leaving my country for a week in 15 hours or so, so if you want to bid, contact me very soon.
Anyway, I'll try to find other Amati piccolo and I think succes is very possible, it'll just take some time.
hello Jaye.Amati snare drum gone for $48.Are you lucky buyer?Walking
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I don't know.....;)...haven't heard from Gilnar, so probably I am not ...
ouch...that was a good price, though ....
Gilnar
05-31-2009, 06:22 AM
I'm sorry Jaye. I don't have PayPal and since I'm not 18 year old, I am not able to get it.
No worries...that is what I figured. Thank you for offering, anyway ;)
No worries...that is what I figured. Thank you for offering, anyway ;)
Hi Jaye,
I found your posts concerning Amati snare. Some weeks ago I sold one to my friend in USA. Are you still interested? I have paypal account, I buy very ofen on ebay drum keys - I have very large collection of keys - you can watch it on www.drumkeys.eu
Let me know if I should find Amati snare for you.
Donīt you have any drum keys?
Arno
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