Vintage 1958 white marine pearl slingerland set

[dynamit]

Hi,

I was about to throw away one of my dads old Slingerland sets. Instead of throwing it away I posted an ad and asked $50 for it. I got tons of replies so I started to do some research. It turns out that it's a rare set from 1958.

Snare drum seems to be a Radio King Single Ply Clam Shell Strainer 8 lug. And the toms are 9x13 and 16x16 and the bass is 14x20.

What do you guys think? Might be worth something more than $50 right? I'm so glad I didn't throw it away. Not because of the money but because it would have been a shame to destroy it. I've uploaded some pictures on the link below.

http://www.nv37.com/litetslingerland/

I'm also selling another set. http://www.nv37.com/svartslingerland/

What do you think about that one?

Probably should sell the Tama toms and the cymbals(Zildjian 16 paper thin crash, Zildjian 25 cm splash, Paiste 2002 20 ride, Paiste 2002 16 crash, Paiste 2002 15, Ufip 16) separately right? The chrome snare on the black set looks pretty hot.

Just interested in your opinions.

[backbeatkeeper]

I would love to buy those!!!

[dynamit]

I would love to buy those!!!

Actually I'm not selling the WMP 58's right now. I'm just curious about them. What they could be worth and their history.

The black set will go one sale pretty soon though. I'm not sure how to do it. If I should split it up or sell it all together. And if I split it up, how?

[backbeatkeeper]

In my humble opinion, the black drumset should be sold as the whole kit. I suggest selling the Tama toms with the stands by themselves. The cymbals could be sold individually as well as the cymbal stands. I would include the stands for the kit and the snare with the kit, as well as any stand that hold toms. For shipping, most of the toms are single headed, you can nest one inside the other for ease of shipping. Just make sure that you put some sort of buffer between the drums when nesting.

If you need anymore advice, feel free to contact me at backbeatkeeper@hotmail.com

Best Regards,

Gary

[dynamit]

And what do you think about the WMP 58's? Needs some work but I think they can turn out great.

[backbeatkeeper]

Shoot me an email at my address provided in the thread and I'll tell ya more.

[Bebop]

Ok after looking through the slingerland book I stumbled upon 2 kits it could be.

1. The modern jazz outfit 5.5x14 snare 14x20 bass 16x16 floor tom BUT an 8x12 tom...

2. The Gene Krupa deluxe ensemble all the right sizes except for a 14x22 bass drum!
So this must have had a special order bass drum... The hardware is all correct for it though ( I double checked for you). Hopefully DrCJW can help us out.

[dynamit]

Ok after looking through the slingerland book I stumbled upon 2 kits it could be.

1. The modern jazz outfit 5.5x14 snare 14x20 bass 16x16 floor tom BUT an 8x12 tom...

2. The Gene Krupa deluxe ensemble all the right sizes except for a 14x22 bass drum!
So this must have had a special order bass drum... The hardware is all correct for it though ( I double checked for you). Hopefully DrCJW can help us out.

Thanks for checking my set out. Seems like I've made a typo. The floor tom is actually 16x18.

If someone have a book I'm also wondering what type of pedals, cymbal stands and cymbals I need to make this set true to it's era and brand.

[Bebop]

OK
Your cymbal stand is #33f in the catalog. It was a new product in 1958 and was in the catalog until 1976, so it seems this stand is original to the set.

Next up is the hihat stand. You seem to have the Slingerland "Dynamo" which is dated to 1969-1979 which would make it non original to the set.
The Krupa hihat stand or the proffesional hihat stand would go with your set.

Lastly the pedal seems to be from 1979. The AA pedal in blue or the Epic pedal would go with your set.

The book that I am getting this information from is The Slingerland Book by Rob Cook. Its a great book and I suggest you buy it. oh, I think the kit was a special order item because of the odd sizing. And if your ever interested in selling it I am interested in buying. :)

Harrison

[Rich K.]

I think the set was probaby a 20, 13, snare and the floor tom was added later...a common practice in the '50s and '60s. The six holes on the top of your bass drum are from internal mufflers. It seems Slingerland installed a lot of them in 1958, as most of those internal mufflers I've seen were on basses of that year.
BTW, you've got the spurs on the wrong side, and the tom mount set up kind of backwards...

[Bebop]

I found a Slingerland Epic pedal if your interested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Slingerland-Epic-Drum-Pedal_W0QQitemZ280054324775QQihZ018QQcategoryZ4145 2QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[dynamit]

Thanks for the information. I really should get my hands on that book.

I just spent some time with the drums and noticed something.

Look at these pictures:

http://www.nv37.com/litetslingerland/IMGP0387.JPG
http://www.nv37.com/litetslingerland/IMGP0354.jpg

Notice how the "part next to the rim" is wood colored on one side and metal colored on the other side of the bass drum. That doesn't look original.

I checked the bottom of my cymbalstand and it was a Premier Olympic Flush Base stand. By the way, does any one know if Slingerland used stickers on their late 50's early 60's stands and stools?

[Rich K.]

"Notice how the "part next to the rim" is wood colored on one side and metal colored on the other side of the bass drum. That doesn't look original."

That's just the "flesh hoop" part of the head...it's meaningless...don't worry about that. Not sure when the stickers started, but I'm guessing the mid-sixties...