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OsakaBop
03-22-2010, 09:38 AM
Here, this nice STAR 4-piece just surfaced on Yahoo Auctions Japan. In the description it says that some of the hardware has been changed out (maybe broke and replaced with other vintage parts-looks like). 2 day auction ends Weds/Thurs this week. Currently 70$ with 7 bids.
Enjoy the photos:
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/ran_co_1011-img600x463-1268839345iv.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/ran_co_1011-img600x454-12688393456d.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/ran_co_1011-img600x522-1268839345bd.jpg
wayne
03-22-2010, 09:58 AM
Very nice kit!..My badge is the same except it also says..Made in Japan...Is there a time frame difference?Also,what do you think it will end at considering the market being what it is?
OsakaBop
03-22-2010, 10:48 AM
A few expensive blooded buyers have been in lately- odd, considering the economy but I expect this one to go about 500$ - I think it`s actual worth is about 350$ myself. There really are less STAR drums out on auction about 10x more vintage Pearl stuff than STAR. I think that rarity factor will bring this one up in price a bit. I have the green light from my wife on this auction so I might jump in.
wayne
03-22-2010, 10:58 AM
EXCELLENT...Go for it,and good luck....Do you know why my badge is the same as perhaps your new one,but mine also says Made in Japan...The badges are identical except for that.
jonnistix
03-22-2010, 01:38 PM
And it is covered in pleather to boot! I wonder when that was an option? Looks like it is 20-12-14 and 5.5 snare. I am about to start a restoraion on another Star 20-12-14 that has been "refinished"-had the wrap stripped and then stained. I think I am going to talk the guy into letting me wrap it in plastic wrap, maybe a nice green srark, or maybe I'll do the poly/glitter in a color of his choice.
Anyway, those are nice! But the ripple in the snare...I don't know, maybe this is a re-wrap. Someone saw a Black Panther and decided they could just cover these instead....?
Ralf
03-23-2010, 04:17 PM
Must say that I, too, have strong doubts about the black wrap being original.
All I know from catalogues of that aera is that black was mainly not listed in,
besides an early 70s, being listed as 'Jet black'.
So it might be rare (black in generally was not common at that time) - but even
today I find that colour fanciless.

I wouldn't bid on that - especially not for that amount you think it will be settled with.

Ralf
Drumsteroo
03-23-2010, 08:08 PM
Nice drum but, I too don't think the wrap is not original. It seems like the plastic leather (pleather) that you can buy at wal-mart. I already re-wrapped a few drumkits with that material. It looks nice, sort of the Ludwig Black Panther wrap, but probably not original to the drum..........I may be wrong.

These are some re-wrap jobs I've done with the pleather
OsakaBop
03-23-2010, 11:09 PM
Ralf, I agree- we`ll see how far it goes up tonight.
Drumsteroo- you`da pleather masta- nice work. That third photo looks like a nice kit- a Downbeat?
Drumsteroo
03-23-2010, 11:21 PM
Ralf, I agree- we`ll see how far it goes up tonight.
Drumsteroo- you`da pleather masta- nice work. That third photo looks like a nice kit- a Downbeat?

Osaka, these were all orphan pieces in my garage that were reunited as a family with one common denominator.........Pleather !!!! Made some kid happy, that's all I know.
jonnistix
03-23-2010, 11:51 PM
If we all give the gift of music, just once, it makes this all worth it. The very first kit I completely rescued from the fireplace was last summer, and I promptly donated it to the kid around the corner. As a reward, the Drum Gods (or as I prefer, The Good Lord) saw fit to make sure the gorgeous set of WMP in the gallery came my way.
OsakaBop
03-24-2010, 07:51 AM
Drumsteroo, the bass drum in the third photo has those classic early 70s Pearl bass drum - very long retractable legs. The DownBeat line and ThunderKings had those. Valencias and the cheaper models still had the small, short retractable legs.
accusonic
07-23-2010, 12:20 PM
Nice drum but, I too don't think the wrap is not original. It seems like the plastic leather (pleather) that you can buy at wal-mart. I already re-wrapped a few drumkits with that material. It looks nice, sort of the Ludwig Black Panther wrap, but probably not original to the drum..........I may be wrong.

These are some re-wrap jobs I've done with the pleather

What adhesive did you use? I might try that...
Drumsteroo
07-23-2010, 02:28 PM
What adhesive did you use? I might try that...

I didn't use adhesive, I just used double sided tape, carpet tape. If I would redo them today I'd probably use 3M contact adhesive. You got test it out first to make sure the adhesive actually bonds with the pleather.
OsakaBop
07-24-2010, 09:19 AM
I just won the auction for this very interesting STAR 4-piece with Kingstone cymbals and hardware. Sizes are 20x16/14x14/12x8/14x5
This kit intrigued me from the moment I saw it- it is re-wrapped in a blue sparkle but they were able to re-affix the badges properly. Instead of remount ing the original lugs he used Tama ARTSTAR lugs and hardware through the bass and toms- the snare is original cond- not a re-wrap. He says he also painted the inside of the shells to protect them from humidity. All in all- it looks very well done- a nice players STAR kit- with enough reliable hardware that I can perform with it if I want. ( I have had mounting bolts (inserts) snap in the middle of a show before causing a head to de-tension. Now I at least put in new tension bolts on anything I choose to play live) Check the pics - I will post more when it arrives and I can study it more. Got it for about 380$ -everything in the photos was included.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/bon_bonzou-img600x450-1279780588n5rtak21585.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/bon_bonzou-img600x450-1279780588jfqdcq21585.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/bon_bonzou-img600x450-1279780588fowaeu21585.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/3.jpg
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/Osakabop/4.jpg
jonnistix
07-24-2010, 11:01 AM
Wow, Eric! Thise had to be the very end of the run for Star. The shells are not typical of Star drums at all. Those look like regular modern edges from the early 70s. My guess is this is a ramp up kit going into TAMA production. Rare indeed! I have yet to see this type of shell. Very nice find! Looks more like a poly or lacquer than paint.
jonnistix
07-27-2010, 03:09 PM
....well....? didja gitum yet..?
OsakaBop
07-27-2010, 10:07 PM
got it! nice- photos in a few hours!
OsakaBop
07-27-2010, 11:02 PM
I`ll start a new thread so as not to completely jump this one
JapanA
08-24-2010, 04:23 PM
Nice drums. I do think they look nice and the starting bid is quite acceptable. How much do you think it would go up? I would like to bid for 100 and that's my final bid.
Japan Auction (http://www.easyauctionjapan.com)
OsakaBop
08-25-2010, 04:02 AM
I bought them and found the wrap lacking in quality (it was a re-wrap) I then rewrapped them myself with green satin flame. Here is the finished product (as many have already seen these- I apologize - it seemed some haven't seen them) 100& wouldn`t be enough- I happily paid about 350$ for these and then about 250$ for the wrap and spent about 10hours of labor to clean them up- this was not a 100$ drumset at all. I would sell you the front bass drum head for 100$ if you like.
Olimpass
08-26-2010, 03:09 AM
Those look incredible. Mind Blowi Beautiful.
fishwaltz
08-26-2010, 04:06 AM
HOLY BAT POO OSAKA DUDE!

Those are gorgeous!

Good job and GREAT FIND!

BTW: A buddy is making a Royal Star decal for mine. I'll post a pix when it happens...

Gotta love green! Cool1
OsakaBop
08-26-2010, 04:31 AM
Many thanks, lots of people don't realize that re-wrapping most drums is almost as easy as wrapping a nice present. Just takes a little longer!
jonnistix
08-26-2010, 10:34 AM
Looks like we have a spambot David...there is two posts in this thread spamming Japan Auction...guess it's time to do the inevitable deed.....
OsakaBop
08-26-2010, 10:50 AM
Are they in cahouts or operating separately you think? Let's keep this forum special -I love this place. Chewie:
fishwaltz
08-26-2010, 05:55 PM
Yeah! Before you sell them to spam-man for a c note, sell 'em to me for two! DOH
niallosul
10-05-2010, 04:09 PM
I just got this kit given to me today for free. Looks like its another original. Its in great nick too. Original parts and finish. Needs a good clean up. Any idea how much it would be worth?

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6932/59589437609542162553547.jpg
OsakaBop
10-05-2010, 10:23 PM
In Japan those beauties are worth 50,000yen- about 560$ all cleaned up shiny and neat. If you sell them dirty then in Japan maybe you get 35,000yen (400$)
In the USA then I think about 350-400$max is what you`ll get. They are just wonderful- do us a favor and keep the snare with the set! Do not sell them out as pieces. I have so many kits right now I can`t fit any more- otherwise I would be all over this- so sweet. what do you know about it`s history?
jonnistix
10-06-2010, 12:00 AM
Amazing...and free. Damn! What did I do wrong? Anyway, O'bop is about right on. Here, because they are MIJ Star drums, and the fact this is a very rare, and highly sought after wrap, 400 should be about right, if they are complete and no fade. Let's see the interiors. This is a nice 20-12-14 w/matching snare. This is a one in a million find. I would be willing to trade you a completely restored, WMP 22-16-13 w/matching snare if you would like to consider a bigger set. That is if you are into rock sized over jazz sized drums. Did you get any stands and/or cymbals?
I do excellent work and my kits are without equal in the MIJ world.
niallosul
10-06-2010, 04:54 AM
I know absolutely nothing about its history. My dad is a teacher and was given it by a parent of one of his students as a kit for the school. They decided they didnt want it but he said i might be interested in it. I have no other vintage kits. I actually build kits and more interested in that sort of thing. The finish is in absolutely perfect order. The hardware/chrome needs to be cleaned up and age has got to it somewhat. There is a snare stand with the set and and old olympic pedal. It has all original star skins on it bar on the underside of the mounted tom where the skin has been changed. I reckon i am going to clean it up and then sell it on. Cant believe this find.
niallosul
10-06-2010, 04:55 AM
Ill post better pictures tomorrow when i have more time.
niallosul
10-06-2010, 09:41 AM
Here is a gallery of images of the kit.

http://img835.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=sdc10035.jpg
cn679
10-06-2010, 03:57 PM
Whatever you do, protect those floor tom t-rods with your life! They may be the last ones on earth! (I know, I've been looking.)

Nice set, by the way. That wrap is not my favorite, but it warms my heart to to see an old set like this still together and complete after 40+ years.
giger.t.
10-06-2010, 06:21 PM
I just got this kit given to me today for free. Looks like its another original. Its in great nick too. Original parts and finish. Needs a good clean up. Any idea how much it would be worth?

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6932/59589437609542162553547.jpg
awesome kit ,it really is.
Drumdreams
10-06-2010, 07:49 PM
Whatever you do, protect those floor tom t-rods with your life! They may be the last ones on earth! (I know, I've been looking.)

Nice set, by the way. That wrap is not my favorite, but it warms my heart to to see an old set like this still together and complete after 40+ years.

cn679, are you looking for original ones, are after market ones that fit. If it's 14inch your looking for, I have both. FYI