ID for snare drums

[Andrew Carrell]

hi...
i have 2 snare drums that i could use a bit of help ID'ing...i'll try to give as much info as possible, and i'll *try* to get some pics posted ASAP...thanks in advance for any info/help you may have....

SNARE #1

*Ludwig
*Keystone badge w/serial#282860 "Ludwig Drum Co. Chicago, USA"
*14" x 5.5"
*black marine pearl
*white interior finish
*dated "May 11, 1966" inside
*8 lugs
*mahogany ????? (looks darker than maple, so I'd assume mahogany...)

the closest guess "I'd" have is a 1966 Jazz Festival, but I'm certainly no expert...I'm a bassist / guitarist !


SNARE #2

*Gretsch
*stop sign badge "Gretsch Drums USA" "That Great Gretsch Sound"
*orange and white sticker inside, model 4141, serial 58899
*Gretsch Responso strainer
*steel shell, "brushed" steel exterior
*14" x 5.5"
*8 lugs

all i can tell is that it was made in the 70's....


both of these snares are in exc/near mint condition, and sound amazing...i'd just be curious as to what the "common" model names are, values, rarity, etc...(i bought the Ludwig for $70 and the Gretsch for $50, so I'm pretty sure that I did ok)....thanks again everyone !

AC

[Andrew Carrell]

here are pics of the ludwig snare....

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/lud1.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/lud2.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/lud3.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/lud4.JPG

[Andrew Carrell]

two more of the ludwig...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/lud5.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/lud6.JPG

[Andrew Carrell]

and some of the gretsch ... (it "looks" like the steel rim has wood sandwiched between two steel layers !)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/gr1.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/gr2.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/gr3.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/gr4.JPG

[Andrew Carrell]

...and 3 more gretsch photo's... you can see the "sandwich" of wood in the steel shell....

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/gr5.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/gr6.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-9/1211509/gr7.JPG