This must be the world's record for a pair of hats

[Drumaholic]

It's the most I've ever seen a pair go for...BY FAR.

http://cgi.ebay.com/K-ZILDJIAN-ISTANBUL-14-HI-HAT-SET-VINTAGE-1962_W0QQitemZ320460630133QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintg ae_Drums_Percussion?hash=item4a9cf12875

If somebody can explain this to me, I'd like to hear why these went through the roof..

[mcjnic]

It's a shill bidding fiasco. That current high bidder is a joke. It would be great if no one else bids and he gets stuck!

[vintagemore2000]

Drumaholic, both bidders are newbies one bidder is 0 and the other has 37 transactions and they had a woody for these hats Bump

[Super B]

Yikes, I hope that auction winner is not married.

[vintagemore2000]

Yikes, I hope that auction winner is not married. super B Laughing H they want be after this if they where!!!

[Drumaholic]

It's a shill bidding fiasco. That current high bidder is a joke. It would be great if no one else bids and he gets stuck!

It's over. And he is stuck.

[mcjnic]

I love this kind of stuff. Justice comes in many flavors. This one be mighty tasty...no?

[drumhack]

I have never used the cyber flea market but why can't he just NOT pay for them and act like he never bidded? Who is going to do anything about it?

[Drumaholic]

I have never used the cyber flea market but why can't he just NOT pay for them and act like he never bidded? Who is going to do anything about it?

I think the seller might.

[AZBill]

Zaniness (sp?). Who are these people? I do like the "don't pay for them" comment. How's that ethics class coming?

[jonnistix]

My money says this goes to paypal and ebay disputes before it ever ends. Wish we could get front rows to this dog fight. Makes Vick.....nevermnind, bad pun.

[drumhack]

I was really asking what happens if you don't pay. I dont believe in the cyber flea market so I have no experience on it. What can the seller do? Sue him? How does he take him to court? What if some guys kid got on there and was screwing around and ran up that bid? There are laws that allow for a cooling off period on purchases in a lot of the states in case you did not know that so my original question is valid.

What happens if you just say, "you know what, I changed my mind, you keep em?"

Just wondering.


drumhackMister TJumping2

[drumhack]

Zaniness (sp?). Who are these people? I do like the "don't pay for them" comment. How's that ethics class coming?

Well Bill, I spent all my money at charm school and didn't have enough left over for the semester on ethics..........................LoLoLoLo

[Gilnar]

If he refuses to pay for them, he gets negative comment on his page so future sellers/buyers know that he is unreliable. He also might get banned and such.

[drumhack]

If he refuses to pay for them, he gets negative comment on his page so future sellers/buyers know that he is unreliable. He also might get banned and such.

This is what I was thinking. I was reading how the guys were saying the buyer is done for and will have to pay for these. From where I am sitting, the buyer won't have to do anything. If he gets banned, he comes back in two minutes with a new user name. The cyber flea market may try to intervene but what can they really do? Nothing is what I am thinking. I will bet those hi hats will be for sale on there again and soon.......

have a wonderful evening

drumhack baby crawl2Mind Blowiflowers2Cool Dude

[AZBill]

Well Bill, I spent all my money at charm school and didn't have enough left over for the semester on ethics..........................LoLoLoLo

Ha, haaaaaa. Good one. You know, I could use some charm-schooling. Was that an online school (I'm also lazy......is there a school to overcome that, too?)? I was just bustin's chops.Party

[drumhack]

Ha, haaaaaa. Good one. You know, I could use some charm-schooling. Was that an online school (I'm also lazy......is there a school to overcome that, too?)? I was just bustin's chops.Party

Infantry school at Fort Benning would whip you into shape and get rid of the lazies Bill!! Enrollment is free!!! LoLoLoLoLoLoLoLo

[cletuss]

Holy Smokes 1500.00 .... oh my that is alot o cashola.

[vintagemore2000]

This is what I was thinking. I was reading how the guys were saying the buyer is done for and will have to pay for these. From where I am sitting, the buyer won't have to do anything. If he gets banned, he comes back in two minutes with a new user name. The cyber flea market may try to intervene but what can they really do? Nothing is what I am thinking. I will bet those hi hats will be for sale on there again and soon.......

have a wonderful evening

drumhack baby crawl2Mind Blowiflowers2Cool Dude drumhack is on the money, big woop he get a non payment strike put against him, who knows except him and feebay, the cyber community doesn't, then as drumhack said , re register with a new name and a different IP code and boom another identity is born,

[dchristo]

I checked on that auction, buyer and seller left each other good feedback
for it, so I guess it was for real! Money was no object in this case?? Thats all I can think of...

[mcjnic]

If they know each other, they would leave good feedback and either relist or sell another route. It's a win win. I don't believe a newbie on eBay would slap happily that much dough on these. Defies logic and probability.

[drumhack]

If they know each other, they would leave good feedback and either relist or sell another route. It's a win win. I don't believe a newbie on eBay would slap happily that much dough on these. Defies logic and probability.

I agree 1000 percent except for the "if" they know each other. They are definitely in cahoots or even the same person for that matter. I am sure with the coverage this site has on the marketplace, those hi hats will not go undetected if they pop up somewhere for sale. Anyone want to place any bets? Laughing H


have a wonderful evening

drumhackD' DrummerD' Drummer

[mlvibes]

I know of a few sales of 14" K hats between $1200 and $1400, and the ones for $1400 were new stamps. The hats in the auction are old stamp, and in excellent condition. They're also marked "heavy", which is rare, and means they are medium by today's standards, which many drummers would prefer. I think the price is high, but not outrageous for what they are.

Edit: just noticed the winning bidder is in Japan, which is surely part of the equation. The Yen has been stronger than the dollar since '08.

[MastroSnare]

I use 14" K's from the 50's, they are my main hihats.

No way I'd sell them for $1,500. They are worth way more than that to me.

Maybe because I've been using old K's for about 40 years, the price on those hihats didn't strike me as unusual.

It's what someone is willing to pay, and they don't make real K's anymore.